I thought he had a poor game by most hookers standard, the likes of Houghton, Lunt etc...

Still twice as good as Michael Hightackleforwardpassillorum though.

Not many of these players have played together that long. Combined with players returning from injuries, poor individual performances and Hudds playing exceptionally well we just struggled. Not to mention i think there was a sense of complacency after we scored twice. Then Huddersfield seemed to wake up as we drifted off.

We was 2nd best in the game from about the 20th min. They was making easy yards every set and our kicking game (mostly Walsh ) was pretty awful.

Certainly our worst performance this year but no team can play well every week but the good teams still win when not so great like on Sunday.

We would never have won that game last year. The energy in defence and the changing down showed we played with heart and commitment and also showed a lot of composer to go up the other end and popping the DG over after being under the pump for 10 mins.

Not pretty but great win.

I thought Walamsley was excellent in his last stint. Charged down a DG and made several big runs but his first 15 mins was pretty bad.

We did look shoddy. At times we looked like a team that had not played together. And I think that is part of it. We through some players back into the team who have had a couple of weeks off and attacking wise they were off the boil.

Passes to touch, dropped balls, giving the ball to the opposition in our own half. Watching it (I taped it and watched it without knowing the result), I just could not see us winning till Ferres decided to give up on RL and start Wrestlemania early. It was a perfect tombstone. The vertical positioning was spot on, sadly he did not make Wrestlemania as he forgot to stop the required centimetre above the mat.

Once that happened it ruined the contest as any win would have been devalued, but then add to that the dodgy drop goal and everything we did wrong gets forgotten.

I could not quite understand what it was, had those playing Leeds put in too much into that game and could not pick it up. Was it the introduction of those being out for a few games, being a bit off the boil. Did Huddersfield disrupt us somehow.

To me it seemed very self inflicted. But everyone see's the game differently.

The secret to winning big games like that is not about playing brilliantly all the time but doing the basics right under the enhanced pressure of the situation.

Failure to do that is why we struggled. The following are observations and not criticisms as the individuals concerned have been great this year.

Robes - knock on and 3 bad passes all which turned over possession
Walsh - kicking on the full in to in goal releasing pressure several times
Swift - snoozing at the re start and letting the ball go dead
Lance - couple of poor defensive reads
Lomax - turned his back at POB leading to a try ( repeat of two previous v dragons and Wakey)
Mose - knock on at POB
Sia - pass into touch
Flanno - pushing at POB

In isolation they are part and parcel of game but add them all together and it explains why we put ourselves under pressure. Take Tommy Mak for instance - has had a totally error free season - which is just as important as the spectacular finishes and why he is being talked about as a possible international.

I thought we were pretty poor. Our intensity was a couple of notches down from the last few big games, which was evident from our slow line speed and lack of kick pressure. We were also having an off day in terms of execution, as Dad's Army points out. But with the huge front row we now have we are able to get forward even when we're getting 'out-enthused', which makes it so much easier to stay in games when we're out of sorts. There's no doubt we would have lost that last year.

The general points regarding a bit lethargic and some mistakes plus hot/cold kicking have been made.
Lots of points about individuals.

The one thing that stood out to me was that attack wise everything went down the right
and the left just didn't function at all bar the early try.

Strange when traditionally Saints struggle on the right.
Swift was pretty much redundant from an attack point of view.

Hohaia and Lomax and to a degree Walsh have attacked down the left with great effect all season.

Flanagan Jones didn't really provide much by way of target or option to the ball players.
They are both SR grafters.

Perhaps a chance to liven things up with the introduction of Percival/Dawson and Wilkin.

I have seen many occasions over the years were following a superstar performance, the team falls flat the following week.

Often I put it down to over confidence, leading to a lack of focus.

I think this happened to some extent on Sunday. We got a couple of early trys and looked comfortable. Then started throwing out slack lazy passes, particularly Roby. This gave Huddersfield field position and once they scored their first try they were dominant and we were looking somewhat shell shocked at something that wasn't supposed to be happening.


There were also possibly other factors at play, particularly fatigue from Roby and Hohoia. They both put in massive shifts against Leeds, but clearly struggled at times against Huddersfield. Roby in mental focus and Lance defensively.

It also looked at times like we were a scratch side just having been thrown together at the last minute. I suspect many players hadn't trained together all week, and instead merely passed a late fitness test and made it into the squad.

The encouraging thing though was that even when playing against a top class and determined Huddersfield team we could still hang on in there while out of form. The great 2006 season was characterised by Saints grinding out a lot of results without really hitting the heights.

Hopefully we will see this continue, and our losses will be close affairs whereby teams have to really fight hard to defeat us.

I also think that Flanagan playing down the left kills our attack down that side. He is a very good defensive player, but doesn't have the guile of Wilkin or Manu to attract defenders. I actually think Flanagan may be best utilised playing in the middle supporting the props with the defensive workload.

I just think it was a mix of players out of match practise and knackered. In terms of picking a side, maybe it was a mistake not to pick LMS. Everyone who came in where previously injured and so would not be running at 100% were as LMS was banned so still should have been training at full throttle.

Easy to say in hindsight. When the 19 was announced I agreed with him being dropped. Did not realize what the Leeds game had took out of us.

From Bolognese

LMS had an injury so wasn't risked

Bolognese??????

One of my sauces.

We were poor through most, although the opening and closing 10 mins were good.

Roby had a poor game, which sums it up, throwing a couple of bricks at Walmsley and the knock on at the PTB.

A lot of Walsh's attacking kicks were poor too, which seems like it wont happen too often.

Most of all, we let Huddersfield dictate the speed of the ruck throughout most of the game. It lead to a higher penalty count for them, but meant that through most of the game we were quite easy to read.

Following his dream game against Leeds, Hohaia has gone back to type. He's got one move which, to be fair, worked for our first try, but fails to bring much to the table. Although he did give us one lovely long kick which sat in the in goal.
I'd love to see Charnock given a run out.

I think if we'd have played LMS, that bit of X factor he has might have spurred us into action a bit quicker.

I'm more pleased with the whole attitude of Saints. We seem to have learnt again how to play badly and win.
We'll play well in most games, but every team will have an off day, like we did on Sunday. To do that and win against a quality side like Hudds, shows class