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He's getting on in years and has had a few long term injuries in the last couple of years.

For mine I would say he flattered to decieve. When I first saw him I thought he would be a lightening winger. But he never seemed to be able to let fly with his pace.

He is an honest grafter though and will have a good work ethic, with run through a brick wall for the team and get his head taken off a few times in the process.

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Quote: Rommel "The Arrow from Barrow is a free agent and your welcome to him?'"

...."[iyou're welcome to him.....????"[/i Yet another cynical posting on this website! Ade has consistently been one of our top try scorers (8th top in Super League I believe) and has always given of his best each time he's appeared. During the past couple of seasons he's struggled a bit with injury but he's always been a great credit to our team and his work ethic can't be faulted. My god, what does a player have to do for Saints to earn a bit of respect when nearing the end of his career? (and yes, I mean you Saddo......!!!!)

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Quote: Toddy Senior "...."[iyou're welcome to him.....????"[/i Yet another cynical posting on this website! Ade has consistently been one of our top try scorers (8th top in Super League I believe) and has always given of his best each time he's appeared. During the past couple of seasons he's struggled a bit with injury but he's always been a great credit to our team and his work ethic can't be faulted. My god, what does a player have to do for Saints to earn a bit of respect when nearing the end of his career? (and yes, I mean you Saddo......!!!!)'"


Pipe down son. No one has disrespected Ade on here. But there is no room for sentimentality in professional sport either.

You will see what disrespecting a player is when Saints announce Wellens' new deal. icon_wink.gif

I bet you are that sycophantic that you will see that re-signing as a positive move as well?

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Take him, he's well behind swift and makinson for a wing spot, without an injury crisis he'd be nowhere near the 19 let alone 17

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Strong finisher close to the line, there's not many as good at squeezing over in contact, trucks the ball up admirably, but lacks any pace or panash.

When his confidence is up, he'll handle kicks well, but he has some really off days on that front.

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Quote: Saddened! "Pipe down son. No one has disrespected Ade on here. But there is no room for sentimentality in professional sport either.

You will see what disrespecting a player is when Saints announce Wellens' new deal. I'm surprised you can actually spell "sycophantic" but I can spell "patronising", "son"! Did I actually say that Saints should offer Ade a new contract? I simply commented that trolls such as yourself (and others) should respect those players who have given great service to the club. I sincerely hope Ade gets a new contract (whichever club he plays for next season) because he's a good deal better than many of the wingers I've seen this season. I might also say that I'd be delighted if Wello gets a one-year contract extension as he's played well from the bench but I'd qualify this by saying that Wilko should be our captain for next season.

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Quote: Toddy Senior "I'm surprised you can actually spell "sycophantic" but I can spell "patronising", "son"! Did I actually say that Saints should offer Ade a new contract? I simply commented that trolls such as yourself (and others) should respect those players who have given great service to the club. I sincerely hope Ade gets a new contract (whichever club he plays for next season) because he's a good deal better than many of the wingers I've seen this season. I might also say that I'd be delighted if Wello gets a one-year contract extension as he's played well from the bench but I'd qualify this by saying that Wilko should be our captain for next season.'"


Which ever club Ade G signs for , we wish him well.


Tick, tock, tick, tock you mentioned Wello in a brave manner, I can see the steam coming out of Saddened's ears.

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Quote: Toddy Senior "I'm surprised you can actually spell "sycophantic" but I can spell "patronising", "son"! Did I actually say that Saints should offer Ade a new contract? I simply commented that trolls such as yourself (and others) should respect those players who have given great service to the club. I sincerely hope Ade gets a new contract (whichever club he plays for next season) because he's a good deal better than many of the wingers I've seen this season. I might also say that I'd be delighted if Wello gets a one-year contract extension as he's played well from the bench but I'd qualify this by saying that Wilko should be our captain for next season.'"


Toddy take a chill pill nobody is calling Ade it's just time for him to go, as with Wello icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Toddy Senior "...."[iyou're welcome to him.....????"[/i Yet another cynical posting on this website! Ade has consistently been one of our top try scorers (8th top in Super League I believe) and has always given of his best each time he's appeared. During the past couple of seasons he's struggled a bit with injury but he's always been a great credit to our team and his work ethic can't be faulted. My god, what does a player have to do for Saints to earn a bit of respect when nearing the end of his career? (and yes, I mean you Saddo......!!!!)'"


Gardner is gash and should have been despatched to another club years ago.

No pace , no threat , his only merit being he is not as fragile as he used to be ?

The difference now makinson and swift play as a pair is huge. A sense of excitement every time either of them get the ball. Neither of them is Quirk , Sullivan or Albert yet but they are exciting to watch.

To recap Gardner is gash.

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Quote: Gerry Mander "Gardner is gash and should have been despatched to another club years ago.

No pace , no threat , his only merit being he is not as fragile as he used to be ?

The difference now makinson and swift play as a pair is huge. A sense of excitement every time either of them get the ball. Neither of them is Quirk , Sullivan or Albert yet but they are exciting to watch.

To recap Gardner is gash.'"



I'm not sure what message you are trying to convey there. Just went straight over my head.

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Quote: another fine mess "Hi apparently rovers are talking to him?

Two questions if ok 1. Is ade being released or has he been offered a new deal?.
2. Whats opinion on him?

Thank you for taking time to read this and replying. Good luck to saints and rich Beaumont next season.
IMO he's useless. He will run the ball back all day and his one on one tackling is decent but that's about it. Positioning is awful, speed is no use as he will never put himself a position to use it and is still dodgey under a high ball. A couple of years outside Jamie Lyon and Matt Gidley boosted his career to a place his skill level didn't deserve to be at.

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Quote: Gerry Mander "Gardner is gash and should have been despatched to another club years ago.

No pace , no threat , his only merit being he is not as fragile as he used to be ?

The difference now makinson and swift play as a pair is huge. A sense of excitement every time either of them get the ball. Neither of them is Quirk , Sullivan or Albert yet but they are exciting to watch.

To recap Gardner is gash.'"


Quit sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think.

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Quote: Toddy Senior "...."[iyou're welcome to him.....????"[/i Yet another cynical posting on this website! Ade has consistently been one of our top try scorers (8th top in Super League I believe) and has always given of his best each time he's appeared. During the past couple of seasons he's struggled a bit with injury but he's always been a great credit to our team and his work ethic can't be faulted. My god, what does a player have to do for Saints to earn a bit of respect when nearing the end of his career? (and yes, I mean you Saddo......!!!!)'"



Plenty respect for Ade from me , I appreciate the effort he's put in for the club over the years but it's time to go. He has benefited from playing outside some fine centre's but for me has never been anything but average. I think he will be surpassed in the records by Swift who looks like a real prospect and possibly even Makinson who has the thing Ade sadly lacks.. pace

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Ade has done well over the years, always like the way he ran the ball back (done that more than some of the forwards). I can't see him getting back in the team though.

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I think there's some unwarranted criticism & revisionism going on about Gardner. He's a player who, though never a world beater and had a frustrating reluctance to take on a player on the outside, never given less than 100% for the club. I'm never comfortable when players like that get the sort of sneering criticism some have expressed in this thread.

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