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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I mostly agree, but I think I was less impressed with Hohaia than some.
When he's at 2nd receiver, I think he's starting a bit to narrow and travelling a bit to laterally. That could well just be something that needs ironing out on the training paddock though.
Good smart kick for the Lomax try though, and he defended much better than I've seen him so far.'"
I thought it was a poor kick, straight to two leeds defenders, only their fumbles and a lucky bounce got that try, imo
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I thought it was a poor kick, straight to two leeds defenders, only their fumbles and a lucky bounce got that try, imo'"
At least it made ground. If it hits the floor theres always a chance the bounce could go your way.
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| Quote: RedVeeSte "At least it made ground. If it hits the floor theres always a chance the bounce could go your way.'"
hardly makes it a good kick though
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| Quote: Saint Simon "hardly makes it a good kick though'"
I didnt say it was. But it does make it a better kick than flying straight into the arms of the FB or Winger. Ala most of the kicks against Wigan in the CC.
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| I wasnt impressed with Lance at all.
And Im now starting to agree about Shenton. Great pass but im not sure he is worth his place in front of Wheeler and Josh Jones.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I thought it was a poor kick, straight to two leeds defenders, only their fumbles and a lucky bounce got that try, imo'"
Nah, it was a good kick that. If you can find the ground with backspin that close to the line you're going to cause problems.
Overall, though, his kicking was still pretty rank.
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| I thought lance hohaia performance was a improvement but still poor. His kicking game again was shocking.
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| Lance looked less of a problem last night because he didn't get involved as much. His kick for J-Lo's try was good but other than that I'm struggling to think of things he did that were a positive. His positional kicking is awful.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I thought it was a poor kick, straight to two leeds defenders, only their fumbles and a lucky bounce got that try, imo'"
I disagree. Judging by the bounce he'd put spin on it and he'd hit the ground at a very awkward distance from the line, causing mass confusion.
I thought Hohaia had an ok game last night but more people came into attack, so taking the spotlight off him. This season seems to be about protecting our senior players from criticism.
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| Lance was okay and nothing more, but that is a definite improvement on what he has been and hopefully the improvement will continue. What encouraged me was he took the line on more last night than he has in the past 6 weeks combined. His kick for Lomax's try was definitely a good kick, he spotted Brent Webb awfully out of position (defending 1 out from the ruck) and just dinked the ball into space with spin. We were fortunate with the roll of the ball after that but it was a good kick. Kicking in general still has a lot to improve on though.
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| Quote: St pete "I thought lance hohaia performance was a improvement but still poor. His kicking game again was shocking.'"
He was well below what you expect from a 'star signing' . Doesnt offer enough at 6 for me at all
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| Quote: No1 Saint "He was well below what you expect from a 'star signing' . Doesnt offer enough at 6 for me at all'"
Can you imaging the damage Leon Pryce could've done last night?
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| I thought Shenton and Perry had two of their better performances in a Saints shirt. Clearly the speculation about Shenton had him fired up, he was everywhere defensively and his flick pass for Makinson's try was quality. Perry was much improved and when he looks for work and offloads the ball he can be quite a handful. Unfortunately, he's far too inconsistent and I don't anticipate much of a future unless he replicate yesterday's performance on a more regular basis.
Hohaia and Wheeler were rubbish I thought. Take out the kick for our opening try and Hohaia's contribution was minimal. Some of his kicking was horrendous and I don't think he really knows what he's doing in that position. As for Wheeler, some shocking defensive reads and errors but he is just coming back from injury, so I'll give him a few weeks to bed in yet.
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| Hohaia hides behind the PTB too much.
If he wants to convert to 6 yet I don't see any urgency from him to become a 6.
Bar his defence he seems to be coasting.
Rush has given him plenty of support in the press.
Think Lance needs to decide if he wants to make a go of
things and give it a dig (or not).
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| Thought Perry was awesome last night. When he's firing he's inspiring. Really gets in the faces and is a ball ache to tackle when he's fired up. I think he's the key because he lifts the others into being more energised in the tackle. All too often last night I could still see that timid defence which wasn't pushing Leeds back. When Perry was on he lifted us a few times and it's the kind of form that we need.
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