Losing to the scum is always more than just a defeat.

Josh jones has done very well and against the two best sides in the comp. he's big, strong and has good balance.

On the subject of shenton, he don't look right to me since his injury. Maybe its just getting over it which will take time but he looks pretty dire.

Yeah. Shenton is looking like a mediocre buy. Although, I will say he's being given very little to work with by the halves.

Jones looks like a physical force. But power isn't something we lack. The problem is a fundamental shortage of skill.

Don,t think the injuries will effect us too much, glad Wellens is back for the next game, we seem to be missing a leader again today. Obviously Lomax effected our game plan that's if we had one, but Gaskell has got the incentive now to get a good run of games together.
Like the look of Josh Jones looks like a raw Jack Reed, more games for him will benefit his game.
Our kicking options were rubbish today, that needs sorting out for Monday.

Our kicking was shocking last week as well.

Shenton is no Lyon. He's no Talau either.

He's no Damian smith at the moment either.

Impressed with Josh Jones today, some real good youth coming through the ranks at saints. For sake of the international game Wigan, Saints and Leeds are producing some real talent and making super league exciting. Long may it continue

I thought Jones was one of Saints better players today, but Wigan were far more enthusiastic and together as a team.

I may be wrong here but what ever happened to respecting the opposition when in their half of the field and taking a simple two points when a penalty is awarded ?


I am making a case for the return of Jamie Foster to earn his corn provided he is used for what he is good at...



Regards,


Jock

thats very hard to argue with

I don't wish to condone Wigan's victory but the Saints were poor today.

FFS (Saints Team) Please loose the shimmy/stutter/ dance and the hesitation when delivering a pass from the play of the ball and the rest will follow.....


Time and youth is on our side forget this one and move on.....

Regards

Jock,,,,

PS , I have one question, " How come our smallest chap on the field constantly gets 'pinged' for high tackles ?
For example : Lance Hohoia's tackle on Sam Tompkins late in the Derby yesterday would have been round his waist if the gangaly Knob head had been stood up straight.

I was surprised Saints didn't take the kick and level at 12-12. Wigan had been dominant up to that point and leveling the scores would have boosted Saints confidence and dented Wigan's. I don't always agree with taking the two but on that occasion I think it was arguably the right choice.

The mission of the new coaching staff appears to be to do everything opposite to what Royce Simmons did. Taking the two was interpreted as a 'negative tactic' (see discussions on here in recent times) and has not been considered an option regardless of tactical advantage. However, from what Mike Rush said in his brief post match comments, it is likely that Saints will be taking the two more often in future.