In your tiny mind. For those of us that live in the real world since the inception of SL or full time Rugby for all you have been living in our very large very imposing shadow. Stick to banging drums and droning and leave the grand finals to us.

Oh wow, another Saints fan who think RL began in 1996. Understandable I suppose, only by thinking that is it possible for Saints to be more successful than Wigan.

For those of us who do truly live in the "real world". Know that RL began in 1895, and thus Saints and Wigan history began then, not 1996. Saints have had a terrific run in the SL era, but you've still got a long way to go to match Wigan's illustrious history.

Wigan fans prefer ancient history though you fool. The idea of a "modern era" of Rugby League is alien to them.

Why? So you can make it 5 in a row?

If that was the intent I think it failed miserably, it was seen as extremely funny by most and pitiful by the rest. I don't think the fact that it had to be split into two banners helped, could it not have been sewn together into one long one at least?

They obviuosly did not pay any attention to my name.

Lets just say no Wigan fans could be psychics as they can only look back on history and not to the future.

No , I remember the part time (for most of us) era too.

So where will Wigan's shadow be when we bathe in the limelight of another final?

Even though you were breaking world records for transfers in that part time era? mmmmmmm

19 Championships, 18 Challenge Cups, higher attendances since records began, produced more test international palyers. Which ever way you look at it. Forever in our shadow.