Just shows how bad the analysis is then.

It was an old school centre on centre lession.

And Sarginson got schooled . He's still a very good player though

I think Burgess could be making a big, BIG mistake joining the NRL at such a young and inexperienced age. Bad enough that he seems to be making a very large number of defensive errors. Worse still that he seems to specialise in the kind of spectacularly cataclysmic blunders Francis Meli's career was dogged by.

If he makes half the number of mistakes in the NRL they'll bust him down to the lower leagues where a reputation for "howlers" is the devil's job to shake free.

I don't mind cockiness in youth. But cockiness without first doing the job you're being PAID to do is a recipe for disaster. Right now Burgess looks like a player who has already accepted his own greatness. Everything he touches seems to turn to gold and the errors he makes have largely been without consequence.

Unfortunately, the harsh brutalities of the real world have the annoying habit of kicking you in the nuts just when you think you've got this life game licked. At some point Burgess is going to hit the wall. In SL the crash might be little more than a mild bump. In the NRL it'll be whilst travelling at a hundred miles an hour. How he deals with the inevitable carnage will, I think, set the tone for the rest of his career.

He reminds me of a less talented version of Shaun Ainscough, both appear to be superstars in their own lunchtime, both have major flaws in their game. At 25, Ainscoughs career is a distant memory, and I can't see Burgess getting a game in the NRL before he returns to play for Leigh/Bradford/Whitehaven and also disappears into oblivion. The goons need to work on keeping their players expectations rooted in reality, because they appear to produce average players with vastly over inflated egos.

Indeed. The biggest difficulty Bridge had to face was choosing whether to stand Sarginson up or trample over the top of him.

I don't think Carney and Wells (whom I tend to like) once mentioned Sarginson's total failure in his defensive duties but instead spent ages both in commentary and at half time talking about how Burgess should have come in.

There's been some absolutely god-awful defence on show this season. Thankfully we seem less afflicted by this disease than most. But it's difficult to see how long such can be sustained if the players know the other side are likely to cough up twice-fold for every mistake we drop.

It's precisely this problem which has repeatedly prevented us from chiselling out wins against Australia. Only this season it seems to have been exponentially exacerbated.

I've seen some tripe posted on hear over the years but that's up there with the best/worst. Joe Burgess is one of the most level headed / grounded young people you will ever meet.

I really rate Burgess. I was surprised to see him getting pelters from some fans on Cherry and White, recently.

What ever did happen to Shaun Ainscough?

Plays in the Championship for Whitehaven (and was obviously never anywhere near as good as Joe Burgess).

Does Somersetsaints post even meet "Tripe" qualification. Angry, bitter and jealous sounds more like it.

He is a top talent and a loss to the game over here, not sure he's ready for the NRL yet but I guess we'll all find out soon enough. Some of the goon 'loyal 18' or whatever crap they call themselves have picked on some of his errors because he is leaving, they obviously choose to forget that he's a young lad still learning.

I liked the look of Ainscough, it was refreshing to see a winger with real pace who was happy to go on the outside occasionally but I guess he just didn't develop enough to iron out the flaws in his game, probably wasn't helped by Nobby much.

Sounds like a great description of your own fans and coach after last seasons grand final. Still not over it yet either

www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 374&type=1 That's a shame

www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 374&type=1 That's a shame