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| Quote: St pete "But they don't have a salary cap in football to even it out. Football is usually who spends most wins the league but super league we are all suppose to be on level playing field.'"
Germany domestic league have a cap in place and they won the world cup. |
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| Quote: theblondebomber "Germany domestic league have a cap in place and they won the world cup.'"
If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap. |
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| Quote: St pete "If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap.'"
I think there are cost control measures, but not a salary cap per se. |
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Quote: St pete "If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap.'"
www.economist.com/blogs/gametheo ... ll-success
The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.
I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this
1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
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Quote: St pete "If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap.'"
www.economist.com/blogs/gametheo ... ll-success
The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.
I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this
1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League | |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: theblondebomber "www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/05/german-football-success
The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.
I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this
1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League'"
Competitive wise, the German league is a shocker. Didn't Bayern win it by 20 odd points? |
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| Lack of 'stars' doesn't help, i don't think. You guys had some brilliant players between the late 90's and late 00's; Sculthorpe, Cunningham, Long, Albert.. Wigan had Farrell, Lam, Radlinski, Dallas.. Bradford had Robbie Paul, Vainikolo. I'm not convined that there's that caliber of player just now, though, that said, is that just the nostalgia goggles? Super League is undoubtedly more competitive now, which surely can only be good, i'd like to think that i know the OP enough via his posts that it's not a case of ''well, we don't win much lately, the sport must be poo''  |
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| Quote: 100% Wire "Lack of 'stars' doesn't help, i don't think. You guys had some brilliant players between the late 90's and late 00's; Sculthorpe, Cunningham, Long, Albert.. Wigan had Farrell, Lam, Radlinski, Dallas.. Bradford had Robbie Paul, Vainikolo. I'm not convined that there's that caliber of player just now, though, that said, is that just the nostalgia goggles? Super League is undoubtedly more competitive now, which surely can only be good, i'd like to think that i know the OP enough via his posts that it's not a case of ''well, we don't win much lately, the sport must be poo'' ![]()
I think that's about right. The teams from about mid-table downwards are pretty much as they've always been - perhaps even a little stronger. The top teams are all quite a bit weaker from not being able to attract top quality NRL players (with the odd arguable exception) or to keep hold of top-notch homegrown players that 10-15 years ago would have stayed put.
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| Quote: theblondebomber "www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/05/german-football-success
The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.
I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this
1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League'"
No way is the Italian league stronger than the Prem. Also, other than Bayern, the German league is pretty weak - even David Moyes dished out a whupping to a German team in the CL last season!
If you moved United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea into the German league they would fill 5 of the top 6 spaces each year and Bayern wouldn't have it all their own way. |
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| Quote: theblondebomber "www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/05/german-football-success
The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.
I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this
1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League'"
No way is the Italian league stronger than the Prem. Also, other than Bayern, the German league is pretty weak - even David Moyes dished out a whupping to a German team in the CL last season!
If you moved United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea into the German league they would fill 5 of the top 6 spaces each year and Bayern wouldn't have it all their own way. |
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| Quote: FearTheVee "No way is the Italian league stronger than the Prem. Also, other than Bayern, the German league is pretty weak - even David Moyes dished out a whupping to a German team in the CL last season!
If you moved United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea into the German league they would fill 5 of the top 6 spaces each year and Bayern wouldn't have it all their own way.'"
disagree. If you where to drop the teams from 4-8 from the English league and German league into one league then all the German teams would be on top. |
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| Quote: theblondebomber "disagree. If you where to drop the teams from 4-8 from the English league and German league into one league then all the German teams would be on top.'"
No way!
It's a one team league with maybe Dortmund being half decent. Look at the scores Bayern won by last year. The German league is a shocker.
None of the Germans would finish in the top 5 other than Bayern |
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Have I logged in to the wrong forum?
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The football debate is in context.
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| Quote: Robbo "I think that whilst the competition is closer than it has ever been up at the top the reason for that is simply the top clubs becoming weaker rather than the lower clubs getting better. Go back 10 years and the likes of Wigan, St's, Leeds, Bulls, would walk the competition in it's current state, I'm glad that its a more even playing field, But it's an even playing field for all the wrong reasons.
Go back a decade and we had real stars in the game and some top quality imports from aus (albeit it usually at the end of their career) . We struggle to even hold onto those kind of players now.
The current wigan/saints teams wouldn't have got near the top of superleague 10 years ago.'"
The super league defences from 10 years ago wouldn't be able to cope with the systematic and structured attack needed in the modern game to break down much tougher defences. People are looking at individuals and their quality and comparing them.
Oh in yesteryear we had newlove and lyon and etc now we have josh jones and we put x amount of points on teams in devastating displays theres no contest.
Teams as a unit are much much better now and if you took the top teams now, and pit them against the top teams 10 years ago the present day teams would win comfortably because of the defensive and attacking structures.
It's an irritating trait. Every year the standard is worse than it's ever been. 10 years ago they were saying the same. 10 years before that, the same. It's a human nature i guess. To rose tint some of the past and get nostalgic.
In 10 years time, the same will happen again. |
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