You all talk the big talk, but our ticket sales for Grand Finals have dropped every year since the first defeat.

Not from me it hasn't

To be fair I reckon our sales would have decreased each year even if we'd won them all - getting to the final every year will naturally make the event less exciting each time you do it whatever the result. A few years away from the final would do a lot to reinvigorate the fans and bring the hunger back.

So would winning one now, after the last 5 years.

I know how you feel, but it’s like the morning after the night before, you always say never again but when it’s time for another dose, you just can’t say no! Some of us are glutens for punishment; just plain sadists.

You’re right, sometimes likeTonto said to Kemosabe, “white man speak with forked tongue” well on these boards they do.

who says the final will be between saints or the pies or the semi saints v wire. i reckon leeds will do catalans and wire might just scrape a win over hull.
will the pies pick leeds who did them in the CC and lets face it are still the champions or will they pick the wire.
hard decisions to be made, and for me i can see a saints v wires final. do i want saints to get to the GF though and possibly lose again. OF COURSE i do. every year all the other teams not at OT would swap places with the 2 teams to be there. one day we will win it again.why not this year!!!
and if not this year then maybe next, but win it again we will.

The words of a true Saints Fan Of course we will be there again.

If we get there and I could go then I still would. Even though spending 150 quid and a precious day off work on a 5 hour roundtrip in the pouring rain to sit in that cripplingly uncomfortable monument to pure evil to watch our tedious and one-dimensional team haplessly lose yet another final (and to Wigan too) and then get to sit in a traffic jam for 90 minutes afterwards soaked to the skin is the absolute very last thing in the entire fabric of reality that I would ever want to do. I'd still be going though as, as a Saints fan, I'd have no choice. Luckily this year I am spared from further punishment

Actually, if Leeds do beat Cats (I have the feeling in my water that they won't this year though) then I think Wigan are a little knackered as I'd take either Leeds or Wire to do them at the Piedome. I think they'll still pick Leeds or Cats over Wire every day of the week however.

Anyone who has not answered 'Yes' is a moron.

It seems to me your feelings seem more wishful ones than anything else, you seem to be almost daring Wigan to take on Wire (if they are in the mix)rather than the seemingly easier bouts with Leeds or the Cats thus removing the task of the Saints having to do a quick double on them at Cardboard park. Have more faith in your own side, and why should the Pies be barmy enough to take on the job for you? Hope to see you in the GF (you never know) knackered or not.

So if it is not Cats or Hull I presume you will not be there!

I'll be there no matter who plays as I'm a supporter of the greatest game on earth, rugby league!

I'm getting immune from losing in the GF par for the course for Saints, but it would be great if Saints turned up & won the GF for once.