And we will also have sia, clough, Magennis, wilkin, roby, LMS, Forster, greenwood, flanaghan who aint that old.

What is it with Wigan and youth/homegrown? It's like a obsession of all Wigan fans to bang in and on about it.

I'm all for youth but I'm also all for trying to win things. If that means bringing in the likes of Manu then I'm happy. We are init to try and win it.


Let's be honest, up until few years back Wigan was the worst club in the world for binning youth players in favour over older overseas players.

Has that delivery of zimmer frames for your team turned up yet?

No not all, we waiting on carmont to give his up.

Looks like pat Richards re-signing has backfired. He's injured more than Gary wheeler and I'm sure you don't want to know how much of your cap the cripple it taking up

Ah but don't forget fairy fielden returned his Zimmer frame when he became bed bound four years ago

cant deny his talent ,he certainly knows his way to the line ....

Manu had a great game against the Rhino's does 80mins no problem and has a great offload

I was impressed by his contribution tonight; Turner did ok too, but you can see his potential.

Was going to say that Manu was back on form tonight. Maybe everything has been sorted and his heads back in the game. I agree 3 years for Manu seams a little excessive. But if two years was ok, then only one of those years is a gamble. In the end if he can't play he can retire and we can sign someone else. Warrington did that to bring in the dog man and that was with a player who was not injured.

I would say to get the best from Manu we need a bit of a mind set change in that we need people to be aware of the offload and in place. There were a few times where he was stood ready to offload and had no runners coming through so the ball went to ground. But if Roby is awake with his running style he could really rack up the points getting the offload late in the tackle. Roby will probably be the closest being at dummy half. It is true our pack has a heavy contigent of aged overseas players, but then there are equal amounts of middle aged players and then underneath that a full pack of youth.

1st choice Pack
Perry +30
Roby -30
La Franki +30
Sia - 30
Manu + 30
Puletua +30

subs
LMS -30
Clough -30
Wilkin -30
Flanaghan -30

Then we have beneath that we have our youth set up.
Magennis; Carl Forester; Joe Greenwood; Scott Hale; Andrew Dixon; Anthony Walker; Jordan Hand;

They all have varying game time so some should be expecting to hit the first team proper in the next year, others are a couple of years further from full first grade. If they make it then they will replace the likes of Puletua and Perry when their contracts are up. If not then we will have to go shopping and let the next set of youth get in training.

Is that the same senior citizen that teaches the overpaid yet distinctly average Micheal Shenton a lesson in centre play, each and overtime they meet?



And yet even as an injury ridden cripple, he's a far better winger than anything the Saints side currently field.

Wow! If you like senior citizen Antipodeans, then Saints is the club for you.

Wigan and youth again. It's a obsession.

Erm, you aren't a Wigan fan by any chance? It's just that if you were then it wouldn't come as a surprise that you didn't know what plus and minus signs mean.