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| Quote: bewareshadows "I'd argue Tomkins is not a centre. For me he is always a second rower. But other than that, they do seem to be missing some bulk.'"
To be honest, I'm not sure what Tomkins is. Sure, he's big, quick and has good hands. But he doesn't seem to possess a great rugby brain (which is a problem if he's playing at centre) and he doesn't exercise his clear advantage in physicality in defence (which is a problem if he's playing in the pack).
A rugby brain is something you're born with. It's not something you can impart to a player on the training pitch. But running your weight and hitting the same in defence is purely a question of determination and commitment.
His development has been severely impaired by his time mud-wrestling down south. Had he stayed at Wigan I think he would have been forced to address his lack of physical involvement or face being shipped out. Either way, Wigan would be better off than they are right now.
His future really is in his own hands. I guess his performance this year (when he can offer no excuses) will go a long way to determining his legacy for those looking back from the future.
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| I think if he'd stayed on we'd have won by forty points.
Easy isn't it!
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Not sure about envy-o-meter but the arrogance-o-meter is in full swing.
Won a few games have they? Didnt hear a peep out of him before good friday
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I think if he'd stayed on we'd have won by forty points.
Easy isn't it!'"
If we'd had Luke Walsh we'd have won by 60 ...
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| Funny they didn't put 30 points on a poor 12 man Widnes then isn't it.
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| The bloke is a complete and utter clown. He had a few weeks where he looked like he had toned it down and his friendship/respect with Cunningham seemed to curb his verbal diarrhoea. But as Pete says, a few wins and now he's back to his usual self.
Oh well, it just makes the thought of beating them and winning trophies later in the year even sweeter.
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| The blokes a fool! (Cas)
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| I've always been a fan of Chris Brudge as a centre and he has just completely schooled Dan Sarginson.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I've always been a fan of Chris Brudge as a centre and he has just completely schooled Dan Sarginson.'"
Twice.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I've always been a fan of Chris Brudge as a centre and he has just completely schooled Dan Sarginson.'"
Yep , made spud look pretty poor tonight.
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| Wiganers reckon Sarginson is the best British centre
We are right in the if this is the case. Couldn't tackle a dinner.
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| Quote: SLS "Wiganers reckon Sarginson is the best British centre
I thought Turner was shocking until I seen Sarginson tonight. Worst defensive display ive seen by a centre.
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| At least Sarginson turned up. Warrington put out two stuffed shirts at centre last night.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Twice.'"
Yet somehow in the analysis it all seemed to be Joe Burgess's fault.
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