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| Quote: Saddened! "But we don't have any chance in the Play offs, surely you can see that? We've avoided an embarrassing season by going through the motions and grinding out wins through very negative, boring tactics. But as soon as we come up against any real quality we unfold very rapidly.
Brown has a major task on his hands. Sorting the culture and mentality of the side is probably his biggest problem. We are rudderless, have no leaders and no on-field general. But more than that we lack spirit and we don't have the never-say-die attitude we used to have.
Anyone expecting an open attacking style of play under Brown are mistaken. Huddersfield's entertainment value came from having Brough and some fantastic athletes in the outside backs and at fullback, he'll have none of that at his disposal at Saints.'"
I don't know. Tonight wasn't the best spectacle, but you don't half go over the top. London were not 'farcical', we just grinded them out. We are not going to find a better full back at the moment than Wellens. He's not the most exciting player to watch, but he's far more effective than you give him credit for. We would be in a much worse position now if it wasn't for him.
You claim us to be boring, blah blah. But we scored 6 tries. We won convincingly. That suggests to me that we have the quality to be a GREAT team. We just need a coach to give us a bit of style and flair, to get the better of the likes of Wigan, Warrington. And you don't think Meli, Gardner are fine athletes? And the potential in Makinson and Swift is unbelievable, if Nathan can get the best out of them.
Perhaps rugby league is not for you, because you don't seem to have a positive word for it, ever. Honestly, if I hated something so much, I simply don't give it the time of day.
And as long as we are in the top 8, we DO have a chance in the play-offs. We were no better last year and we got pretty close to winning the thing. Have a little faith...
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Except we have been the same all season. We've been ripped off. Bored to progressively greater depths with each game that has passed. That should not be the case with as much experience and achievement as is in that team.'"
As I said to Saddened, perhaps rugby league is not for you if you find it so boring. Or perhaps you would prefer the amateur game. I don't know the answer.
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| Quote: JonB95 "As I said to Saddened, perhaps rugby league is not for you if you find it so boring. Or perhaps you would prefer the amateur game. I don't know the answer.'"
I didn't find Saints boring last season (although some did) but then I supported the development of our young players and so was always enthusiastic to see them give it their best, which they always seemed to do. This season we have just become more and more boring as the season has progressed to the point now where I opted out of attending or even watching the Warrington game, for instance, because I preferred to watch the Olympics. That was the first home game I had missed since 2007, including friendlies. I almost didn't go tonight because I wanted to watch the wheelchair basketball as it was a lot more exciting to watch than Saints (regardless of who they are playing or whether they win, lose or draw). That I went to the match was solely down to the fact that I have a season ticket and it was the last game of the season and I wanted my money's worth. Ha! No chance of that, but I went anyway.
I would much rather be supporting Wakey at present. They are a ton more entertaining to watch and are actually fighting for a place, which will make following them a rollercoaster ride at present (much the same as we had last season). We are so far from entertaining as to be on Mars and all the people around me tonight were asleep by halftime. Either that or so bored they were chanting anti-Wigan songs.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I didn't find Saints boring last season (although some did) but then I supported the development of our young players and so was always enthusiastic to see them give it their best, which they always seemed to do. This season we have just become more and more boring as the season has progressed to the point now where I opted out of attending or even watching the Warrington game, for instance, because I preferred to watch the Olympics. That was the first home game I had missed since 2007, including friendlies. I almost didn't go tonight because I wanted to watch the wheelchair basketball as it was a lot more exciting to watch than Saints (regardless of who they are playing or whether they win, lose or draw). That I went to the match was solely down to the fact that I have a season ticket and it was the last game of the season and I wanted my money's worth. Ha! No chance of that, but I went anyway.
I would much rather be supporting Wakey at present. They are a ton more entertaining to watch and are actually fighting for a place, which will make following them a rollercoaster ride at present (much the same as we had last season). We are so far from entertaining as to be on Mars and all the people around me tonight were asleep by halftime. Either that or so bored they were chanting anti-Wigan songs.'"
You are spoilt by all of the success we have had in the Super League era. What we need is a REALLY bad season, so you can appreciate how good our situation is.
I can't believe you didn't attend the Warrington game, of all games. Was a great contest.
Hope next season will entertain you more.
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| We are so poor it's untrue.
The last month of games has been atrocious.
Truly what has happened to the "Entertainers"? Our rugby is so non rugby it's unbelievable.
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| Quote: matt_p "We are so poor it's untrue.
The last month of games has been atrocious.
Truly what has happened to the "Entertainers"? Our rugby is so non rugby it's unbelievable.'"
Try watching rugby union. You would appreciate us more after that.
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| Quote: JonB95 "You are spoilt by all of the success we have had in the Super League era. What we need is a REALLY bad season, so you can appreciate how good our situation is.'"
That's a stupid thing to say. Utterly ridiculous.
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| Quote: JonB95 "Try watching rugby union. You would appreciate us more after that.'"
Strangely enough I thought tonight had the feel of a rugby union match. Except we couldn't kick.
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| Took my girlfriend to her first match tonight. She still has no clue what a halfback is.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That's a stupid thing to say. Utterly ridiculous.'"
Why?
You are disillusioned with the team... when we are 3rd in the league.
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| Quote: JonB95 "You are spoilt by all of the success we have had in the Super League era. What we need is a REALLY bad season, so you can appreciate how good our situation is.
I can't believe you didn't attend the Warrington game, of all games. Was a great contest.
Hope next season will entertain you more.'"
But in reality we are in that BAD season now, yes we are 3rd but that isn,t an indicator how good we are but how bad the standard of superleague is.
I,m usually one of the few optimistic fans on here but even I have been compelled to join the "boring brigade".
Don,t know if you have watched Saints over a long period but we are not playing rugby the "saints way" often a difficult brand of rugby to defend against.
This season we are so lateral and predictable, its a 2 club superleague this season, we are just the best of a bad bunch. Yes we are spoilt by previous success but the standard has been slipping for the last 4 years. If you personally accept this then OK, other members don,t, and judging by all the fans sat around me last night the majority thought it was unacceptable as well.
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| Quote: JonB95 "Why?
You are disillusioned with the team... when we are 3rd in the league.'"
I'm not disillusioned with the team. I'm thoroughly bored by the team.
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| Whilst we don't seem to be playing well at the moment, we were in a similar situation last year and look how that turned out in the playoffs...we seemed to coast last night not going all out at times but always knew game was in bag.
Silverwood didn't help, his constant whistle blowing for both teams stopped either really getting a roll on and that does contribute to it being such a poor game.
Even if we don't make it to OT this year, looks like a 3rd place finish in SL with 2/3 of the season being coached by an academy coach and a bloke with no prior coaching experience and I think that's a decent achievement...Especially when looking back to the bulls game at odsal when I said I would have settled for anywhere in top 6.
2012 has been a difficult year for us with moving to the new ground, not having a recognised coach etc and I think a better judgement on where we are going to be moving forward will be next year when NB comes in...just think we should try and stay behind the lads moving into the playoffs rather than slating them - after all I would take boring games all day long if it gets the job done and could bring the trophy home
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| Quote: JonB95 "Hello? We won 30-0 against a team that put 62 on Warrington last week, not bad given that we were 'simply awful'...
Btw, Wellens scored 2 more tries tonight. Comfortably over 20 for the season now. Shut up.'"
You must admit it was such a dour game! when I was perhaps aged 9 I just went to see my own team win, but these days I also want to see some good rugby played. The atmosphere in the ground was flat, except about 18 minutes in the second half and that soon faded? The Happy Whistler did not help, but then again we gave away so many stupid penalties.
Saints are in the top 4 which was essential for you, so it was never going to be an easy game, but I just expected more! yes we were not the same team that played Warrington, but then you do not seem a Warrington or Wigan!
Now we will be soon down to the silly time of the season, the play-offs second bite of the cherry if you do not win etc, this should be The Sky TV Knockout Cup and nothing else, a team that performs all the season should be The Super League Champions and recognised and rewarded in that way, my opinion!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I'm not disillusioned with the team. I'm thoroughly bored by the team.'"
You are similar to many people who become fanatical supporters of a sport, or team, and quickly lose interest. The people who have watched Saints all their lives, or any other team for tht matter, accept the ups and downs as part of life, and move on. We realise that you cannot always be the best, but enjoy the times when we are. We will still be Saints supporters for the rest of our lives. Most of the evengelical people won't. Its part of life.
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