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| Quote: Joynty11 "snip'" The attack has 1 dimensional, which has stifled us and forced us up the middle, but to demand his head after 1 season where he's taken the reigns of and ageing and shriking squad, finished 2nd in the table, got to the semis of the CC (beaten by a very good Hudds performance) and narrowly lost the GF is folly imo. This is the guy who got the Catalans to third in the table, remember - you don't become a bad coach overnight!
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "The attack has 1 dimensional, which has stifled us and forced us up the middle, but to demand his head after 1 season where he's taken the reigns of and ageing and shriking squad, finished 2nd in the table, got to the semis of the CC (beaten by a very good Hudds performance) and narrowly lost the GF is folly imo. This is the guy who got the Catalans to third in the table, remember - you don't become a bad coach overnight!'" nobody thinks he is a bad coach, they would be fools to. however many people may choose to dislike his coaching
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "The attack has 1 dimensional, which has stifled us and forced us up the middle, but to demand his head after 1 season where he's taken the reigns of and ageing and shriking squad, finished 2nd in the table, got to the semis of the CC (beaten by a very good Hudds performance) and narrowly lost the GF is folly imo. This is the guy who got the Catalans to third in the table, remember - you don't become a bad coach overnight!'" on a similar note, fielden became a bad prop over night so it is possible.
figure out which icon is willie, and which is fielden
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| Quote: jonah77 "nobody thinks he is a bad coach, they would be fools to. however many people may choose to dislike his coaching'" So are we demanding that he should not only win trophies, but also in the manner we deem fit? Or are we just demanding that we're at least entertaining losers?
For me, decimation through injury and then the resulting fatigue in the front row players meant we were starved of any decent go forward/platform and was a major contributing factor to our dour approach. We looked jaded imo.
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Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif Tweet from @martinoffiah 23/08/2011: 'Must admit i did love watching Saints- Cunningham Joynt Longy Tommy then Leon, last classic RL team ever'. Even the dark side can't help but love the rebellion.:Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif |
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| Regarding Potter and his stature at Saints, I am afraid the boo-boys won''t be happy but he isn't going anywhere.
The fact of the matter is thus2 to 3 years at Catalans. Note the length of time there people, that's 2 to 3 times longer than he's had here, yet he's still taken us to the Grand Final, the semi-final of the CC and 2nd in the league.
His remit this season has been to play it up the middle. Why? Because we have no pace outwide, yet we cannot just replace the wingmen as we cannot afford to release them from their contracts and if no one else is interested in taking up their contracts then I am afraid we have to make do. Potter wants us to revert to the side that throws the ball around left, right and centre, but until we blood the kids sufficiently to be confident enough to do this, the club will use it's primary weapon, that being the pack.
Potter was always going to be in an unenviable position, but why? DA was a great coach, but I think we're getting a bit over-emotional in our thoughts of his legacy. Fair enough, we won the CC every year he was here, but we also failed in the GF more times than we won it under him, yet he is held up as some kind of wunderkind coach, the 2006 season apart.
If Potter had won us the GF, if Meli hadn't had made those 2 excruciating cock-ups, if Maurie hadn't tricked himself into thinking he was Tony P and if Bryn hadn't turned his back on Diskin on our own try line, we'd be talking of winning the GF and you know what the sad thing is, the same people would still be posting the same threads on he condemning Potter for being a different person to our last coach.
He cannot win at Saints.
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13052.jpg REMEMBER, A TVOC IS FOR LIFE, NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS!
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[quote="Jamie Peacock":22x7gz6s]I really wanna beat Saints next week!
I hate Saints, I hate the place, I hate the players, I hate the fans![/quote:22x7gz6s]
Rafa, Feed the left-backs, they will score!
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| Quote: Joynty11 "Potter must learn that Saints are a great footballing side and should give the players more licence put promote the ball and express themselves more.'"
Let me remind me what Anderson did in his first year in charge? Finished top and didn't make the grand final! Also let me remind you what he did in the last 2 grand finals! lost both!
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Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif Tweet from @martinoffiah 23/08/2011: 'Must admit i did love watching Saints- Cunningham Joynt Longy Tommy then Leon, last classic RL team ever'. Even the dark side can't help but love the rebellion.:Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif |
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| Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "Let me remind me what Anderson did in his first year in charge? Finished top and didn't make the grand final! Also let me remind you what he did in the last 2 grand finals! lost both!'"
Put it a bit more succinctly than I did there...
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13052.jpg REMEMBER, A TVOC IS FOR LIFE, NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS!
[quote="Puig-Aubert":22x7gz6s]Its just Loz. It may seem a bit childish, sad and cringeworthy but its just his way.[/quote:22x7gz6s]
for Puig Aubert's top ten masturbation tips visit
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[quote="Jamie Peacock":22x7gz6s]I really wanna beat Saints next week!
I hate Saints, I hate the place, I hate the players, I hate the fans![/quote:22x7gz6s]
Rafa, Feed the left-backs, they will score!
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| Quote: Joynty11 "Maurie Fa'asavalu
No problems with axing the others, but Maurie's not been that bad. It was only around the mid-season point when everyone was saying he's "back to his best".
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| Quote: jonah77 "nobody thinks he is a bad coach, they would be fools to. however many people may choose to dislike his coaching'"
i felt it neccessary to reiterate an earlier point, choosing to dislike him being the key points not his coaching ability.
i am entiltled not to like the guy, just as much as I am entiltled to think to is a good coach!
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| 1 Leon Pryce
2 Ade Gardner
3 Matt Gidley
4 Sia Soliola
5 Tom Armstrong/Jamie Foster
6 Gary Wheeler
7 Kyle Eastmond
8 Nick Fozzard
9 Kieron Cunningham
10 James Graham (C)
11 Francis Meli
12 Chris Flannery
13 Jon Wilkin/Paul Wellens
14 James Roby
15 Maurie Fa'asavalu
16 Tony Puletua
17 Scott Moore/Paul Clough
Matty Ashurst,Bryn Hargreaves,Andrew Dixon,Shaun McGennis,Gareth Frodsham, Jamie Ellis, Gareth Dean and the rest to cover during injuries.........not a bad little squad when you study it.....potentially leathal half back partnership..........good back line..........full back that can be awesome in a broken field................strong pack............great impact ofthe bench................simple................See you at the Theatre of Nightmares next year!!!!!!
P.S. Didn't spend any money either!!!
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| Quote: AKM "1 Leon Pryce
2 Ade Gardner
3 Matt Gidley
4 Sia Soliola
5 Tom Armstrong/Jamie Foster
6 Gary Wheeler
7 Kyle Eastmond
8 Nick Fozzard
9 Kieron Cunningham
10 James Graham (C)
11 Francis Meli
12 Chris Flannery
13 Jon Wilkin/Paul Wellens
14 James Roby
15 Maurie Fa'asavalu
16 Tony Puletua
17 Scott Moore
Matty Ashurst,Bryn Hargreaves,Andrew Dixon,Shaun McGennis,Gareth Frodsham, Jamie Ellis, Gareth Dean and the rest to cover during injuries.........not a bad little squad when you study it.....potentially leathal half back partnership..........good back line..........full back that can be awesome in a broken field................strong pack............great impact ofthe bench................simple................See you at the Theatre of Nightmares next year!!!!!!
P.S. Didn't spend any money either!!!'"
Swap Roger with Sia and you would'nt be far off!
I don't think wello will move to 13 but i've said it many times before Pryce would make a great 13.
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| Pace is needed in our side, it's as simple as that. Take Eastmond out and we genuinely don't have any real exciting flair players who can break a game up.
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| Quote: AKM "1 Leon Pryce
2 Ade Gardner
3 Matt Gidley
4 Sia Soliola
5 Tom Armstrong/Jamie Foster
6 Gary Wheeler
7 Kyle Eastmond
8 Nick Fozzard
9 Kieron Cunningham
10 James Graham (C)
11 Francis Meli
12 Chris Flannery
13 Jon Wilkin/Paul Wellens
14 James Roby
15 Maurie Fa'asavalu
16 Tony Puletua
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: tm - tl "A lot of people are bagging Hargreaves which i don't really understand. Apart from the mistake Saturday (in which 3 players were caught out) he hasn't put a foot wrong. He may not be a world beater but he certainly puts his hand up and gets stuck in. Ramps up every set, doesn't miss a great deal in defence, not sure on his handling errors but it doesn't strike me as being poor.
Who else would we get in to play for the money he is getting? Give the lad a break! Fact of the matter is we can't have a squad of 20+ world beaters.'"
I agree what your saying about bryn and your correct it's not oftten he makes mistakes but having him and clough on the bench don't work IMO.
As soon as we bring them 2 on together our go forward falls apart.
I can't see bryn making the 17 next year but 1 things for sure if he does he will give 100%.
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