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| Sounds like McManus or Rush have ballsed up spectacularly here. The suggestion being put about is that Warrington offered him a lot more than we did. If this is true WTF are we playing at ?
Sounds an awful lot like the GF win last season has set us back five or six years and we're back to trying to do it on the cheap. If the rumours are true Warrington have signed Gidley, Lineham, Sandow and Savelio. Wigan have signed Sam Tomkins, why are we shopping at Price Slice?
Tell you what, our pack is going to be garbage next season. A couple of injuries and we'll be up the creek. Mose, Jones and Andre going and only Tasi coming in leaves us way short. That is forgetting the potential Savelio had.
Some of the stuff being said is ridiculous as well. Why should he accept a much lower offer from Saints?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Sounds like McManus or Rush have ballsed up spectacularly here. The suggestion being put about is that Warrington offered him a lot more than we did. If this is true WTF are we playing at ?
Sounds an awful lot like the GF win last season has set us back five or six years and we're back to trying to do it on the cheap. If the rumours are true Warrington have signed Gidley, Lineham, Sandow and Savelio. Wigan have signed Sam Tomkins, why are we shopping at Price Slice?
Tell you what, our pack is going to be garbage next season. A couple of injuries and we'll be up the creek. Mose, Jones and Andre going and only Tasi coming in leaves us way short. That is forgetting the potential Savelio had.
Some of the stuff being said is ridiculous as well. Why should he accept a much lower offer from Saints?'"
Oh dear. I bit my lip last time. Let's not forget it's still nothing more than rumour...
KC has said there will be 2 or 3 more signings to come. Currently we sit at Jones, Hohaia and Wellens out and Tasi, SMD, Haggerty and another to be announced in. Pretty solid if you ask me. If/ when more leave, I'm sure there will be replacements. Davies, Knowles, and Ashworth will start pushing for spots in the pack, and all have equally good potential at the moment as well, maybe even Levy depending on how he develops. That's on top of the established Wilkin, Vea, Greenwood and Thompson who are already established. It's looking totally awful to me
Savelio is not worth the money of Percival, Thompson and Richards COMBINED. We have a lot of good youngsters coming through and the club shouldn't be held to ransom. No player is bigger than the club - remember Andy Bracek?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Sounds like McManus or Rush have ballsed up spectacularly here. The suggestion being put about is that Warrington offered him a lot more than we did. If this is true WTF are we playing at ?
Sounds an awful lot like the GF win last season has set us back five or six years and we're back to trying to do it on the cheap. If the rumours are true Warrington have signed Gidley, Lineham, Sandow and Savelio. Wigan have signed Sam Tomkins, why are we shopping at Price Slice?
Tell you what, our pack is going to be garbage next season. A couple of injuries and we'll be up the creek. Mose, Jones and Andre going and only Tasi coming in leaves us way short. That is forgetting the potential Savelio had.
Some of the stuff being said is ridiculous as well. Why should he accept a much lower offer from Saints?'"
Simple because Warrington currently have no juniors who are good enough apart from Currie. If Saints gave Savelio a bumper pay packet then Greenwood etc... would of wanted something similiar. Saints probably offrd Andre a small offer with the promise that after 12 months we check his progress and give him a pay rise.
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| Saddened, I like you mate but you are incredibly pessimistic.
We've got a great pack for next year. Masoe leaving in my opinion doesn't weaken us at all. He's lazy, and doesn't put a shift in so he can leave for me. We've signed the lad from Salford so that's a positive with hopefully more signings to come. We'll be strong again for next year.
I don't want to slag Savelio off because until it's confirmed then it's just rumours, however, if he has signed for them then good, I don't want players who aren't committed to the shirt. If it was a move to the NRL or to Union then fine, I can understand their desire to prove themselves on that platform...but to move to our rivals down the road for a bit of extra dosh, I don't respect that. I can only imagine that kind of attitude dragging down the mood a bit in dressing room too.
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| I don't understand the anguish. It's been common knowledge all season that Savelio is leaving.
Admittedly, Warrington would be a surprise. But not if they've decided to offer silly money.
Sav has his heart set on the NRL. But if Wire have lost their marbles it makes sense to milk the silly buggers dry for a couple of years and then go to the NRL.
Big contracts demand big performances. So far Andre has been nothing more than an exciting "bit part" player. It makes no business sense to tie ourselves to someone who a) isn't the finished product and b) is likely to bail for the NRL anyway.
Stop crying, gut up and have the intelligence to realise that if true we've dodged a .50 calbre bullet. Ultimately, any player who quits the champion club for an also ran is not a champion player.
As for Saddened - didn't you throw a similar tantrum when that other star, England International forward (as yet unrecorded), Andy Bracek, took Wire's filthy lucre?
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| I'd be surprised if he signed for Wire, but like like Mug says its been common knowledge for years that he wants to go to the NRL. I think he'll have another year or 2 with us before getting a gig down under
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| Who is Savs agent, I was lead to believe our club had the improved contract offer on the table at the start of this new season. I hope his agent isn,t creating a bidding war and unsettling Sav in the process.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Who is Savs agent, I was lead to believe our club had the improved contract offer on the table at the start of this new season. I hope his agent isn,t creating a bidding war and unsettling Sav in the process.'"
Erm .... that's what agents are for. The idea that Sav's mind has been twisted by the malign influence of an agent is silly and a reversal of cause and effect.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Erm .... that's what agents are for. The idea that Sav's mind has been twisted by the malign influence of an agent is silly and a reversal of cause and effect.'"
A Sydney based agent………..I,m just hoping we are not getting another "Eastmond Scenario" where there is a possibility of the agent seeing the opportunity of making more money by advising him to move away regardless whether it is good or bad for the player.
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| Quote: Judder Man "A Sydney based agent………..I,m just hoping we are not getting another "Eastmond Scenario" where there is a possibility of the agent seeing the opportunity of making more money by advising him to move away regardless whether it is good or bad for the player.'"
Players hire agents who reflect their own personal values. Ergo ...
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| I should say that I once attempted to pin Jon Wilkin (in his official capacity as head of the players union) down on the question of agents playing not only the NRL off against SL, but RU, too.
He handled the question the same way one might deal with a barrel full of radioactive waste spewing deadly fission products in all directions.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Stop crying, gut up and have the intelligence to realise that if true we've dodged a .50 calbre bullet.'"
If a player wants to play NRL, he's got to show he's worth it. He's got to stand out and play consistently well.
If Warrington sign Savelio, they will do so on a four year deal. Two good seasons for them, then sell him for a few hundred thousand pounds.
You all blindly support the club no matter what they do. I was absolutely bang on about the club neglecting the playing staff post KC/Scully and unless the club starts waking up it's going to happen again. Not only are we not in the bidding for the big names anymore, we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either. That's a bad combination.
But hey ho, we've managed to tie down Matty Dawson
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| Quote: Saddened! "You all blindly support the club no matter what they do. I was absolutely bang on about the club neglecting the playing staff post KC/Scully and unless the club starts waking up it's going to happen again. Not only are we not in the bidding for the big names anymore, we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either. That's a bad combination.
But hey ho, we've managed to tie down Matty Dawson
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10 |
16 |
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22 |
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