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| Quote: St pete "Just got to find a 6.
I've got a feeling that Walsh is going to be like holdsworth at hull for us. If he plays well we will win just like Holdsworth at hull but when he plays poor we need someone to step up which is pretty similar to what's happened at hull.
We can't just rely on Walsh to lead us around the park, be creative, have a good kicking game and also be our goal kicker. That's a lot of pressure for a player who's already said he plays better without pressure.
The signings of Amor, Maose, Beaumont in the pack to play alongside Lms, walmsley, Roby, sia, Manu and Wilkin should give us a platform but I just hope we don't depend on Walsh to much.
It's no surprise Briers has become a better player under smith as he took that extra pressure off briers. He took the goal kicks off him and brought in Myler which had had a positive impact on the wolves and lee.
So basically, I just hope we don't put the to much on Luke Walshs shoulders!'"
With regard to the 6 issue.
I think next season we will play Walsh down the right with Wilkin playing down the left as nominally loose forward but being one of the play makers. I then expect Lance or maybe Wheeler to play a midfield support player role in which they are basically sniffing around forwards looking for offloads, and then making darting runs in midfield. Sometime even filling in at hooker. Similar to how Brown had Luke Robinson at Huddersfield.
Our pack next year should be a fearsome affair. This year Walmsley has exceeded all expectations and often has carried our pack. Next season he will have the support of Amor and Masoe in particular, and also Beamont when injuries hit.
As a result I doubt we will be in a situation such as we have seen this season were we struggle for territory and thus struggle to make try scoring opportunities for the backs.
Inability to make yards going forward also means the opposition have more opportunities to score against us due to their superior territory.
It is therefore somewhat encouraging that despite little field position and with arguably no halfbacks this season, we were able to score the same number of trys as Leeds in the playoff game, and in the regular rounds inflict defeats on Warrington, Wigan and also Leeds.
For the first time in years im also excited about our threequarters.
We now have the magical LOFA (length of field ability) that ive been banging on about for years. ie the players with pace who can magic out a try from deep inside their own half.
Turner for me has also exceeded everyones expectations. I was a champion of his signing, but even then didn't expect him to perform at the level he has done. Certainly he is a far superior player than what the Hull fans thought of him.
One area he has surprised me of late is his kicking game, I didn't know he had one, yet he possesses what I regard as a raw ability in this area, that with a bit of coaching could become an extra string to his and the teams bow. This by the way is with regard to both goal kicking and field kicking. He kicked our only 40/20 this season, and also I noticed against Leeds he was getting the drop kicks from under the sticks to travel almost Pat Richards distances 60+ metres. This is in marked contrast to Paul Wellens whose kicks used to just about get passed the 40 metre mark.
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| A lot of positives from last night, but ultimately it was a gut wrenching loss when a glorious win was there for the taking. Just one or two better decisions at vital times would've seen that one more required score.
Not to be this year, but our new lads for 2014 should make us a better force.
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| I think Makinson was gutted when we were stood under the posts after he had bombed a pass, after such a brilliant catch, step and run.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I think Makinson was gutted when we were stood under the posts after he had bombed a pass, after such a brilliant catch, step and run.'"
He probably got a call. If he did, he wouldn't be the first player in anyone's team to have fallen for it. However, had the call come from Turner then the result would have probably been great to witness.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "With regard to the 6 issue.
I think next season we will play Walsh down the right with Wilkin playing down the left as nominally loose forward but being one of the play makers. I then expect Lance or maybe Wheeler to play a midfield support player role in which they are basically sniffing around forwards looking for offloads, and then making darting runs in midfield. Sometime even filling in at hooker. Similar to how Brown had Luke Robinson at Huddersfield.
Our pack next year should be a fearsome affair. This year Walmsley has exceeded all expectations and often has carried our pack. Next season he will have the support of Amor and Masoe in particular, and also Beamont when injuries hit.
As a result I doubt we will be in a situation such as we have seen this season were we struggle for territory and thus struggle to make try scoring opportunities for the backs.
Inability to make yards going forward also means the opposition have more opportunities to score against us due to their superior territory.
It is therefore somewhat encouraging that despite little field position and with arguably no halfbacks this season, we were able to score the same number of trys as Leeds in the playoff game, and in the regular rounds inflict defeats on Warrington, Wigan and also Leeds.
For the first time in years im also excited about our threequarters.
We now have the magical LOFA (length of field ability) that ive been banging on about for years. ie the players with pace who can magic out a try from deep inside their own half.
Turner for me has also exceeded everyones expectations. I was a champion of his signing, but even then didn't expect him to perform at the level he has done. Certainly he is a far superior player than what the Hull fans thought of him.
One area he has surprised me of late is his kicking game, I didn't know he had one, yet he possesses what I regard as a raw ability in this area, that with a bit of coaching could become an extra string to his and the teams bow. This by the way is with regard to both goal kicking and field kicking. He kicked our only 40/20 this season, and also I noticed against Leeds he was getting the drop kicks from under the sticks to travel almost Pat Richards distances 60+ metres. This is in marked contrast to Paul Wellens whose kicks used to just about get passed the 40 metre mark.'"
Wilkin will be in the pack next year.
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| Quote: St pete "Wilkin will be in the pack next year.'"
That's a pretty one-dimensional take, cocker.
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| Quote: St pete "Wilkin will be in the pack next year.'"
In place of who tho? We've got players like lafranchi who may be moved to the back row for our more specialised props, added to our existing back rowers and I don't see who he'll force out. Great player, but possibly too small for the pack now
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| Quote: Saint Simon "In place of who tho? We've got players like lafranchi who may be moved to the back row for our more specialised props, added to our existing back rowers and I don't see who he'll force out. Great player, but possibly too small for the pack now'"
Both Jon and Brown agree that Jon ain't a halfback and will be in the pack next year.
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| Quote: St pete "Both Jon and Brown agree that Jon ain't a halfback and will be in the pack next year.'"
Oh I agree with that, but in place of who? Add Jones who has been amazing too . Lots of competition in the back row and I'm not sure in Jon would get in over those players
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Oh I agree with that, but in place of who? Add Jones who has been amazing too . Lots of competition in the back row and I'm not sure in Jon would get in over those players'"
The the basis Jon won players player and IMO should have been player of the year means if expect him in at 13 before JJ.
Maybe JJ will be back at centre.
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| Quote: St pete "The the basis Jon won players player and IMO should have been player of the year means if expect him in at 13 before JJ.
Maybe JJ will be back at centre.'"
He's been brilliant, out of the pack. Perhaps jones will go to centre and that will give us some size there
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| Wilkin will be a pivotal 13 next year similar to O Loughlin with the goons. Wilkin has gained valuable experience this season, I should imagine Walsh, Wilkin and Roby will make our attack more structured next season.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Wilkin will be a pivotal 13 next year similar to O Loughlin with the goons. Wilkin has gained valuable experience this season, I should imagine Walsh, Wilkin and Roby will make our attack more structured next season.'"
Add Lomax to that and we've got 4 effective pivots, quite different from this year!
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| Quote: St pete "We not got those risk players anymore that do that special thing to win a game. Leeds are big game team with numerous players that can come up with that special play. Maguire was Injured last night but popped over the winner.'"
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| Is Laffranchi deffo staying next season?
I bloody hope not
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