FORUMS > St. Helens > Wilkin |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2935 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2021 | Nov 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Benidorm John "Grow up man. there have been lots of occassions when players have been complained of being bit and other occurences, (Hopoate, Spelling?), or should I say smelling!!!
Pete doesn't like Wilkin so it comes as no surprise he's putting in his tuppence worth so readily here.
JW did nothing wrong or foolish in making an immediate complaint during the game. Whether the panel judges it a 'chicken wing tackle' or not John obviously felt the tackle technique was putting undue/unnecessary pressure on his arm so made the complaint. To compare it to footballers deliberately trying to get someone sent off is ridiculous.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 18 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2013 | Jan 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: SaintsFan "A chicken wing tackle is a career-threatening tackle. '"
Genuine question here as I don't know the answer .But how many career's have been ended by a chicken wing tackle?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2931 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Tony Stark "Pete doesn't like Wilkin so it comes as no surprise he's putting in his tuppence worth so readily here.
JW did nothing wrong or foolish in making an immediate complaint during the game. Whether the panel judges it a 'chicken wing tackle' or not John obviously felt the tackle technique was putting undue/unnecessary pressure on his arm so made the complaint. To compare it to footballers deliberately trying to get someone sent off is ridiculous.'"
Totally agree. Lima's tackling "technique" throughout the game looked "different".
Is there no chicken wing rule down under? Perhaps thats why there is a difference of opinion?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Tony Stark "Pete doesn't like Wilkin so it comes as no surprise he's putting in his tuppence worth so readily here.
JW did nothing wrong or foolish in making an immediate complaint during the game. Whether the panel judges it a 'chicken wing tackle' or not John obviously felt the tackle technique was putting undue/unnecessary pressure on his arm so made the complaint. To compare it to footballers deliberately trying to get someone sent off is ridiculous.'"
I'm entitled to have my say on the " chicken wing" tackle like everyone else on this forum.
I think he acted like a OTT footballer trying to get another player sent off which isn't the rugby way. I played rugby for 22yrs at a high level and for my local teams and have never seen of heard any player act in the way wilkin did.
You state I don't like wilkin, that's not true and you should keep untrue comments about what you THINK you know to yourself.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 9284 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: St pete "I'm entitled to have my say on the " chicken wing" tackle like everyone else on this forum.
I think he acted like a OTT footballer trying to get another player sent off which isn't the rugby way. I played rugby for 22yrs at a high level and for my local teams and have never seen of heard any player act in the way wilkin did.
You state I don't like wilkin, that's not true and you should keep untrue comments about what you THINK you know to yourself.'"
Quote: St pete "wilkin made a fool of himself crying to the re'"
Quote: St pete "He was more focused on watching himself on the big screen all night.'"
Quote: St pete "it's no shock that wilkin could kick start this sort off thing.'"
No, no, you're right. You're Wilkin's biggest fan.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Mr. Phil "No, no, you're right. You're Wilkin's biggest fan.'"
I fail to see where i say I don't like him.
I don't rate him but how does that mean I don't like him?
And what's it got to do with you?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 14094 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2019 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| He thought he was the victim of an attempted chicken wing, being under 3 tacklers he didn't have the viewpoint of us. He didn't ask for the man to be sent off, he told the ref what he thought. Whether it was a chicken wing it not, Lima was going at his arm in that tackle.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2935 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2021 | Nov 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: St pete "I'm entitled to have my say on the " chicken wing" tackle like everyone else on this forum.
I think he acted like a OTT footballer trying to get another player sent off which isn't the rugby way. I played rugby for 22yrs at a high level and for my local teams and have never seen of heard any player act in the way wilkin did.
You state I don't like wilkin, that's not true and you should keep untrue comments about what you THINK you know to yourself.'"
Ok, I apologise, what I meant to say was; "it would appear evident from your other posts about Jon Wilkin that your opinion of him as a player is extremely low when compared to other professional rugby players... so it comes as no surprise he's putting in his tuppence worth so readily here."
I think Billinge_Lump sums the incident up most accurately.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10399 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I thought Wilkin and the ref dealt with it well.
He felt a man in the tackle attacked his joint in a dangerous manner, which obvioulsy hurt him. He didn't shout, swear, scream or stamp his feet. He wasn't trying to get a man sent off on the day to gain an advantage (as the ref obvioulsy wouldn't have done this).
He spoke to the ref in a professional manner, who in turn spoke to the captain of the opposition, not the player accused. The event will be reveiwed and if Lima's guilty he'll be charged.
If we're complaining about instances like this, then we're looking for things to moan about imo.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 647 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It would appear Wilkin was correct, with Lima being charged with TWO offences!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1859 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2014 | Feb 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| But one of the charges is of being TP's bitch
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 115 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2012 | May 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| As a one-time cheeky half back, I regularly felt let down by the referee failing to punish dirty play - 'it's all part of the game' they'd say as I picked myself up off the floor after getting decapitated in a late tackle.
Well done Wilkin. If he's risked his reputation to try to clean up our game, well done him. Isn't the game hard enough already?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4131 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Wilkin has every right to complain to the ref IMO, he felt Lima was out to do him harm as much as tackle him, im all for big hits and collisions but 'chicken wings' and deliberatly trying to injure players needs to be stamped out. Im all for the commitee having a look and if Lima is found guilty ban him. Yes and thats from a Wigan fan.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 647 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Bill_Barlow "Wilkin has every right to complain to the ref IMO, he felt Lima was out to do him harm as much as tackle him, im all for big hits and collisions but 'chicken wings' and deliberatly trying to injure players needs to be stamped out. Im all for the commitee having a look and if Lima is found guilty ban him. Yes and thats from a Wigan fan.'"
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10399 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Bill_Barlow "Wilkin has every right to complain to the ref IMO, he felt Lima was out to do him harm as much as tackle him, im all for big hits and collisions but 'chicken wings' and deliberatly trying to injure players needs to be stamped out. Im all for the commitee having a look and if Lima is found guilty ban him. Yes and thats from a Wigan fan.'"
As I stated above, I thought Wilkin went about it in a proffesional manner. I guess the only way it could've been more proper would have been if he'd have asked his captain to approach the ref.
Surely if Lima has been found guilty of said offence, it vidicates Wilkin's actions anyway?
|
|
|
|
|
|