He's been crocked a few times this season. Low pain threshold.

I wonder how many games he would have missed for us had he Travis' staying power?

He's no Blake Green that's for sure.

But he's better than no Blake Green.

No Blake Green is George Williams and George Williams is better than Burns right now.

Can't say that I noticed Williams much in any of the games we've played so far.

Putting club bias aside, George Williams is a very good player and is doing half of Matty Smiths job as well.

Agree! the club can so much better, half backs are supposed to have skills and speed, not be just "scrappers"

And supporters are supposed to do ... what?

Not sure your point? I was clear what I said, that I feel a half back needs ball skills, and speed, not just being a scrapper!

I agree about a club like St Helens needing more than a scrapper at halfback. It's a bit like when we had Hooper...but we were ok then because we had other pivots like Long, Martyn, Sculthorpe etc

I think Burns is more than a scrapper, but for whatever reason it's not quite happening for him in the 'dazzling halfback' department. Maybe he's just past it in a sense I don't know but he never shy's away from graft, and he brings a real nasty streak that we lack elsewhere.

Cooper was a bit of a scrapper as well, if you have a good scrum half with good ball skills and set plays then its not really necessary for the stand off to be the same. Burns has a pretty decent passing game, supports well, gets involved and doesn't go missing. He's doing a lot of running about and over doing it because him and Walshy haven't got there partnership and combinations going, its making him look ineffective.

I think consistency with Burns is an issue. There have been games this season where he has played well and has shown some nice touches. Ultimatly though, when you sign for a club who have aspirations for the Grand Final you need to play at that level consistently.

As others have said earlier, he is trying to adapt his game. He has, from what I've seen, been a running threat throughout his career. We've seen it this year where he has seen a gap but has had his ankles tapped or hasn't been able to push through it. He's trying to reinvent himself and as I and others have said, you can't fault his effort or his desire.

Many halves have to change their game as they lose pace. Long did it brilliantly for us. Burns is trying to do the same but his decision making can be hit and miss.

Another issue for Burns in some ways is the lack of a ball player at 1. A full fit Lomax was able to find the right play and deliver it when it mattered but we haven't really seen that side of Quinlan's game.