He's a belting player but do you think he's always likely to get injuries? He certainly doesn't hold back in the collisions/tackling.

I treat injuries as completely random events unless there is some underlying reason such as an existing chronic condition. I haven't heard anything about Vea so I'm not concerned right now.

I mean, if it's a choice between Vea always playing at a hundred miles an hour or not it's the former every time. All we can hope is the dice fall in our favour I guess. There's certainly no point worrying about something which is outside our control.

He does indeed, I cant argue with any of that but in all fairness if I pulled a saints shirt on I would do all of the above; it doesn't mean I'm good enough. With the likes of Amor, Thompson, Wilkin, Greenwood and Roby you have more than enough graft in there, you can afford to have those X factor players.

Whilst Mose does not give consistant performances one thing he has proven is that time and again he steps up in the big games and can be unplayable. He is the rare type of player who can swing a game in your favour on his own.

A choice between that and someone who will make plenty carries at a 5m average gain, I know who I would rather have in the team personally. I think most if not all opposition would rather face up against Richards over Mose too.

Mose meter per carry is pretty shocking for 6ft 6in 23stone guy.

I,m almost sure stat wise he is the best prop in superleague for metres per carry. I,ll answer your next response in advance: Yes he does have a poor no of carries per mins on the pitch, but thats not 100% his fault.

Trying to find an example where a prop of that size moves to another club and plays for the better or worse. Probably Baloo would be an example he didn't do a lot of minutes at the bulls and used as a battering ram, Saints signed him and played him differently gave him more minutes and gave him quality ball resulting in loads of tackle busts.

some still making excuses for out and out bone idle laziness

The problem is you are still whinging about him when he's not even playing, you need to turn the record over and moan about someone else. We all are all wondering who will be the "goat" next season.

The thing is - the coach and squad together can't moan about laziness when you've got players turning their backs and watching guys run past them for tries. Cas' first THREE tries were solely down to laziness.

Do as I say - but not as I do, eh?

How does the fact im writing in a thread about Mose thst wasnt started by me account for me banging on about mose? Isn't it normal practice to chat about mose in a thread about mose? Isn't it against the AUP to talk off subject ?

Not once have i blamed mose for some of our dire performances. Not once have I said HES directly to blame.

Do I think he's lazy? Yes

Do think we carry him ? Yes

Do I think he lets his team mates down ? Yes

Does he like hard tough work ? No

Would I pick him? Not unless we down to bare bones

Do I dislike him? No

I think you have got selective repetitive syndrome, Pete. Don't think we can help you out, just need to factor it in when responding I suppose.

Whatever the case - if we keep losing front-line forwards Cunningham really doesn't have much choice but selecting him.

Do you rate every single rugby league player? Do you not tbink any players in rugby league are bone idle ?