I've said he missed 6 tackles and that's not good enough. I've said all year that turner needs to sort his defence out as he plays centre and if you miss tackles in the centre you get hurt.

He played 6 on Friday and still missed 4 tackles. Every time I see the stats he missed 4 tackles.

Picking on Turner



. I've also said all year that greenwood misses far to many tackles and the worry is, they defend on the same edge!!!

I'm always fair on my critique. I may not think Turber is good enough but ill paraise him of he plays well. That's with all the players. I try to be fair as I can.

I remember you saying I picked on Wilkin few years back and then the following season i gave him so much credit for Ho's role in plsying 7 that's people said I had a man crush on him.

Call me what you will, I always call it as I see it and always fair.

I'm not saying anything as I know I'll kop a ban unlike you. you'll go crying to your littke bum chum on here again.

If you weren't chasing me round like some kind of stalker you'd know I have banned fewer people than probably every other mod or admin - in ten years.

And "bum chum"???????

Seriously, St. Pete you need to cool it.

It's not, but that's another debate.

Are you a mod on here?

Honestly mate your posts are cringing. I've found St Pete to be a rational poster who's honest and up for a decent debate. Completely opposite to yourself who's posts these last couple of days have been pure drivel and pointless.

Don't let the 'power' go to your head.

I think people need to cool down.

That was a great game and I simply don't know how anyone can go into details of how any player was this good or that bad. It was intense and brutal at times. Every player gave 100% and did his very best to serve up the best they could for their club, fans and themselves.
Sadly the pitch ruled out any chance of playing good open fast Rugby.
Players made plenty mistakes due to the opposition's pressure and the under foot conditions.

As for the return fixture, injuries will play a part again both prior to the game and during it.
From a Wigan POV, we will have Charnley, Thornley & Powell back in the backs. With Crosby, Flower and O'Loughlin in the forwards. As for who will be out injured then, who knows.
It will be a dry fast pitch which should suit Wigan's back three of Hampshire, Charnley & Burgess, all who have blistering pace. It can't be emphasised enough how much O'Loughlin is missed and that win yesterday was an excellent win in view of his absence.

If anything turned the game Wigan's way it was probably the miss count after the 5th tackle when Richards was tackled. I put that down to fatigue both mental and physical as you'd been running with 15 from the second half. Two interchanges down and it told. A quick ptb and your right defence was caught short with the quick kick and a very fast winger.
A remarkably evenly matched game won with just two tries to one!

Let's hear it then ?

I truly felt sorry for Richards, he looked awful - really nervous for some reason?
I don't think he would have played many minutes without the two injuries.

If we keep on getting two bad injuries per game then in another 5 games we will have none of our first choice teams and will be dipping into the 19's or the lower leagues.
Can't believe such awful luck this season (again).

He had a off day didn't he? Players have them, let's hope he bounces back on Monday

SP here's some interesting stats. I know you are big Burns fan, but in the games Williams has played at #6 this year he has scored more tries, same number of assists, made more metres, made more tackles, missed fewer tackles, given fewer penalties and made fewer errors than Burns. He's also made more clean breaks and more tackle busts.
Williams is doing o.k. not brilliant bit learning on the job. At least Wane will give our young halves a chance.

I have to laugh when some Saints fans ask what Wigan would do if they had both halves out. Well they could put the England Knights havles from 2013 in there couldn't they
or play Hampshire at #6?