Talent for one.

I am absolutely gobsmacked by this. It takes a lot to shock me but this has me barely able to come up with words to criticise it. But I will give it a go.

Turner as a centre offered nothing. He got talked up on here as having a great season but the only time he has ever beaten a man at Langtree Park he was in a Hull shirt. At least we'll be spared his horrendous defending in the centres, he can be hidden on the wing now.

Lance has clearly been found out which is good, the fact he remains at the club is another example of how weak the management is. Maurice Lindsey would never have stood for this foolery at Wigan. Just persuade him to request a release, its really not that hard.

So a new low even for us. We're happily planning on going into a season with no centres at all, a comedy prancing 6 and you lot are still giddy with excitement about being destined for glory.

Wheeler at centre anyone?

....terrible.

Turner at 6 is hilarious. He cannot kick, he cannot pass, he cannot beat a man or attack the line either. He will take the ball, run to the line, do that horrific gay skip and fall over at the feet of the first man like he always does.

Lance stated he will be playing at 6. If the tampering has started even before the season has kicked off then the coach will be rightly getting stick again.

I actually let out a chuckle to myself at that!



Do you not rate Percival as a centre? Your comment that we are going into the season with no centres is a bit harsh.

All this 'we need someone to play off Walsh' is utter BS. Brown splits his HBs. Anyway, how on earth is someone who cannot pass to the standard required of a HB play 6?

I am baffled, unless we change our offensive structures. That didn't seem to be the case on Fri. Obviously it's a see how it goes sort of situation.

I'd rather give Wheeler or Charnock a chance than do something like this. But Wheeler looks like he'll play centre instead of Turner I think. Seems odd that he'd change the natural positions of two players.

Yeah I do, he looks a decent prospect. I'm just not sure he's up to first choice in the first team for a whole season yet, unless he's developed a bit physically since last season.

Didn't wheeler play in the halves against batley? In ideal world it would be wonderful for wheeler to step up, command the 6 role and fulfill all the promise he's shown. However, being as brittle as a twig means I'd be more worried if he was considered our only plan!

Charnock is probably a few years away from being ready to make the step up to super league from what I've seen.

6 and 7 were 1st and 2nd reciever most of the year so it's not as if they're totally separated - though I agree the concept of partnerships is less important than it once was.

It is on the face of it a strange one ...

Wheeler played right centre on Fri when he came on in the second half.

I agree Charnock is probably not ready but I wasn't saying he would be first choice. Wheeler has to be used. Definite last chance - I think he's in his last year anyway.

I don't think he did, did he? I'm pretty sure Jack Ashworth slotted in there with Wheeler going to 7.

The only comparison with pryce is colour and size. Pryce was quicker off the mark, had a genuine eye for a gap, better rugby brain and most importantly pryce had the winning mentality.

I posted regular last year how frustrated I get with Turner, he's got the makings of being a top player but seems to lack that extra effort. He's one of them players that "nearly" makes the break but just makes the half break.

If he puts the effort in, gets involved and actually runs at the line with convictition he could actually do a job of a running stand off but it's the other areas IMO he lacks.

Only time will tell.

I'm cautiously pleased at this news.

I'm not certain that Turner would be a success at 6, but I do feel pretty certain that Lance doesn't cut the mustard in that position. I reckon that Brown will go with Walsh at first receiver on both sides to maximise his control of the team, allowing Turner to run off him without too much creative responsibility.

The other bonus of this move is that we might see Lance play a full season as a rotation 9, which I think is the only position in which he'll ever make an impact as a Saints player.

It does leave us pretty thin in the centres, though; we might see a fair bit of Matt Dawson playing there.

Do you not think the lack of the second pivot will drain lomax of the ball?