Brown may well have a three year contract but in the end I think it could come down to player power whether he leaves or not. At the moment a lot of our players don't look like they are enjoying their Rugby.

I wouldn't say that at all. Our attacking from the three quarters has been better than any of the last few years and Lomax for example looked to be enjoying himself more than ever earlier in the year. Lets give Browny a chance with a full strength team, moulded how he wants it - that's why he was appointed .

Nonsense, if he was 'destined' for it they wouldnt have waited all this time to appoint him.

Ive been told Paul Robeson has been see at Langtree ,

could be a suprise here .

I think you'll have to explain that one!

Yes its got me too.I'm not a Paul Robeson afficianado and don't know all his songs,maybe his politics could come into it,but as you said,please Explain that one?

Some people cannot see the forest for the trees. We could have Wayne Bennett in charge, we could have vintage Ian Millward in charge and we could have Daniel Anderson in charge and none of them would be able to do much better with the team/injuries we have at the moment.

It's imperative we give Brown time to rebuild the team. We cannot keep sacking them after half a season and expect to turn it around.

I didn't start this as a sack brown thread and I've got to say at the moment I agree with you he just hasn't had a chance to do anything . Interesting this though, last year when it was announced that brown was the new man I suggested he should have got involved more with the team at the time, even if it was just observing this for me now poses 2 questions

1. Was he involved , especially around recruitment calls ? If so it could be argued that he has had far more time and influence on the squad shape than we think

2. If he wasn't involved at all until the day he officially started then why not? He was available and about to take on a 3 year project if that was me I'd be wanting start on the front foot , not basically throwing away my first year

Exactly, we should lower our expectations this season with all these long term injuries getting worse match by match. A fully fit squad with the addition of just one decent half back and prop would transform this team.
Luckily the superleague is poor only Wigan look as though they can hold form, we should make the top 8, what we need is an announcement before the play offs of some major signings to give the fans some hope for the future instead of going through another season of "Groundhog Day".

I don,t think Brown would consider leaving the post, he,s not really had the chance to put his mark on the team, he,s just had to juggle a team of what limited choice of players thats been available.

Lower them even more ?? Our only saving grace is the playoffs are a farce so we can retain a modicum of interest in the season, assuming of course we don't slip even further and end up fighting hard for the wooden spoon

my initial Hmmmm response, was that I feared this thread would lead to people looking for a scapegoat.


Brown is not the fault. It's happened over the course of years. But unlike most I don't think it's as bad as people make out.

Teams have times at the top and times in decline. Not 1 year not 5 years, but decades can pass. Before Sean Mc, how many years was it 30 since we won anything.

I'm happy to accept that we are having some down years, but we have still managed to keep in the mix, even last year we had enough about us to be 80 mins away from a final.

This year, I'd say personel wise we started a bit better than 2012. But injuries have killed us. We would have done well to win anything with no halfback. But we would have been turning some of these losses into wins with more players on the pitch.

Current team for me is a top 8 side, team with no injuries is a top 4 side.

But to be final contenders again we need a half. There is no other way around it.

We had just as many injuries in 2011 (in fact, we peaked at having just 18 fit players one week, over half of whom came from the under 20s) but still got to a Grand Final.