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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "I am hoping he can kick on next season if we do keep him. I remember Britt having a slow first season, and I think I can also remember a fair few people wanting him gone.'"
We didnt have the problem of trying to fit Britt in to a postion as he wasa prop, we don't know where to play lance and IMO we are just picking him accomadate him.
If I was lee Gaskell I'd be wondering what the hell I've got to do to get a game when the guy playing in my postion has been so bad.
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| I thought Hohaia played ok for the Exiles. He wasn't world class but if he was he wouldn't be over here. Most of his passes were short ones but in that weather you can't expect anything different but I thought his defence was very good and he put in a few decent kicks one that was an inch off being a 40-20 and had it been fan favourite sir Lee Gaskell to put that kick in most fans would have been nursing a semi and demanding a contract extension for him.
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg |
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| Quote: TheVee "I thought Hohaia played ok for the Exiles. He wasn't world class but if he was he wouldn't be over here. Most of his passes were short ones but in that weather you can't expect anything different but I thought his defence was very good and he put in a few decent kicks one that was an inch off being a 40-20 and had it been fan favourite sir Lee Gaskell to put that kick in most fans would have been nursing a semi and demanding a contract extension for him.'"
Oh behave,Gaskell was dropped to take him out of the fireing line after all the stick he was takeing from the fans.
Lance Is poor,the fact that one of his plus points was that he didnt kick a 40-20 sums It up.
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| Quote: Don Brennan "Oh behave,Gaskell was dropped to take him out of the fireing line after all the stick he was takeing from the fans.
Lance Is poor,the fact that one of his plus points was that he didnt kick a 40-20 sums It up.'"
Gaskell was removed from the team because he isn't good enough! So you don't see someone being an inch of a 40-20 under pressure as a good kick? You prove my point though leaping to the defence of Gaskell! if it was him it would have been a good kick just because it's Gaskell. People have made their mind up that Hohaia isn't a favourite and that's it nothing he does from now until he leaves will ever be good enough.
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg |
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| Quote: TheVee "Gaskell was removed from the team because he isn't good enough! So you don't see someone being an inch of a 40-20 under pressure as a good kick? You prove my point though leaping to the defence of Gaskell! if it was him it would have been a good kick just because it's Gaskell. People have made their mind up that Hohaia isn't a favourite and that's it nothing he does from now until he leaves will ever be good enough.'"
No irony In your post Is there?
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| Quote: Don Brennan "No irony In your post Is there?'"
No.
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg |
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| Quote: TheVee "No.'"
Oh but there Is.
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40218_1286737075.jpg Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg |
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| Quote: TheVee "Gaskell was removed from the team because he isn't good enough! '"
Gaskell was removed from the team and that is all we actually know. He was in the firing line, of that there is no doubt, and keeping him out for a few weeks would have been wise so as to calm things down a little. However, there is clearly something else going on because he has now been out for months, bar a token 10 minutes at the end of a match the other week. However, given his performances last season and the way he kept battling to the end in the GF, I doubt very much it is his ability as a rugby league player that is keeping him out of the game. I rather think it is whinging senior players and a coach that is too close to them which is doing that.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Gaskell was removed from the team and that is all we actually know. He was in the firing line, of that there is no doubt, and keeping him out for a few weeks would have been wise so as to calm things down a little. However, there is clearly something else going on because he has now been out for months, bar a token 10 minutes at the end of a match the other week. However, given his performances last season and the way he kept battling to the end in the GF, I doubt very much it is his ability as a rugby league player that is keeping him out of the game. I rather think it is whinging senior players and a coach that is too close to them which is doing that.'"
Gaskell was in the firing line for the same reason Hohaia is now and it's cause he wasn't performing! His performances last season were average and if you stick me in a Grand Final team I would battle straight to the end and break bones for the honour doesn't mean i'm good enough though does it?
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| Quote: TheVee "Gaskell was in the firing line for the same reason Hohaia is now and it's cause he wasn't performing! His performances last season were average and if you stick me in a Grand Final team I would battle straight to the end and break bones for the honour doesn't mean i'm good enough though does it?'"
Except Gaskell clearly is.
Man of the match performances in knock out play off rugby against Wigan.
Would you do that?
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| Quote: Cragganmore Kid "Except Gaskell clearly is.
Man of the match performances in knock out play off rugby against Wigan.
Would you do that?'"
Ah a smart .. Highlight the place I said I would be better than Gaskell and could do it? Gaskell is obviously a better player than me, a fan, just incase you needed that pointing out. He is not good enough for Saints and time will prove that he is not the next big thing.
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| Quote: TheVee "Gaskell was in the firing line for the same reason Hohaia is now and it's cause he wasn't performing! '"
He was performing but he was getting stick from the fans because the whole team was out of synch. However, you keep on thinking he was a dud if it suits you. His performances last season were very good for a newbie in an extremely tough position when he had no experienced halfback partner to guide him and an ever-changing team around him (due to injuries). He deserved better treatment than he has received this season and given that Hohaia is an international with tons of experience any comparison to him is worthless.
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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: TheVee "Ah a smart booty.. Highlight the place I said I would be better than Gaskell and could do it? Gaskell is obviously a better player than me, a fan, just incase you needed that pointing out. He is not good enough for Saints and time will prove that he is not the next big thing.'"
Well I think Anderson playing him at hooker in the game, despite Hodgson pulling out for the exiles, after stating that he would have picked Lance at FB, if hodgson was not playing, just goes to show that coaches of all types just do not know what to do with him.
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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He was performing but he was getting stick from the fans because the whole team was out of synch. However, you keep on thinking he was a dud if it suits you. His performances last season were very good for a newbie in an extremely tough position when he had no experienced halfback partner to guide him and an ever-changing team around him (due to injuries). He deserved better treatment than he has received this season and given that Hohaia is an international with tons of experience any comparison to him is worthless.'"
Yes the teams performances at the Start of the season did not help, but Gaskell had a few stinky games to. But other than that, I agree he did stuff right too where as Lance just does not do anything.
By that measure if Gaskell had spent his time just filling a hole in the line rather than trying to be productive, he would not have got the flack.
Personally I'd rather my half backs try some plays than just fill a shirt. If it don't come off at least you have made the opposition scramble to defend something.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Yes the teams performances at the Start of the season did not help, but Gaskell had a few stinky games to. But other than that, I agree he did stuff right too where as Lance just does not do anything.
By that measure if Gaskell had spent his time just filling a hole in the line rather than trying to be productive, he would not have got the flack.
Personally I'd rather my half backs try some plays than just fill a shirt. If it don't come off at least you have made the opposition scramble to defend something.'"
I would rather see our halfbacks losing posession and making mistakes while being creative when nothing else is on but in Gaskell's case I can't think of anything except from that chip in the grand final. Don't get me wrong I hope he turns out world class but I just can't see it. The problem I see is the opposite to Lance who hardly ever takes the line on and looks lazy is Gaskell backs himself far too much and takes the line on leaving a huge overlap outwide and he does it in most games and a few times in the Grand Final. I hope this is something he can grow out of doing but he certainly isn't ready to take the 6 shirt no matter how much fans scream for his return to the team.
Back on topic though Lance looked better at 9 than he does at 6 but Roby has that covered and Makinson should take full back next year leaving Lance without a position. IMO he is too experienced to leave out of the team and obviously is a class player.
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