ok did anyone think faz and scully deserved long bans after there fight at knowsley road? that was worse than this today

Its just because its HOCK.. anyone else no one would even be commenting,,

Now now, Hock's disciplinary record isn't actually that bad and has been hyped up by Sky.

(Let's not forget that time he slapped a ref).

Owned for the third time this season...... End of

Keys are jangling on this thread...

personally today i don't think there's much wrong with what he did. However in all the times its kicked off recently in the derby there's been a common denominator every time and that's been him. He's a great rugby player but a scumbag.

well its took you 3 games to get HOCK sent off,,, you tried your best the last 2 games to,, perry,,1st... soli 2nd,,, 3rd time lucky,, AND YOU STILL GOT HAMMERD,, hahahh,,, get over it,,,

Could that not be because your coaching staff have told your players to target him ? . If you play a team with a hothead it makes sense to try and push him over the edge.

A neutrals view on it was that LMS & Hock were tussling to get their heads in position and had a bit of a ruck. Hock got the better of it. It was handbags, 2 yellows at best.

The real dog was Magennis who totally lost it. Hitting someone from behind - dog act No1, swinging for O'Loughlin who was trying to calm the situation, dog act No2. Not wanting to condone anyone for punching but if anyone deserved a clout from Mossop it was him.

At last a very balanced and unbiased view.

You cannot beat a bit of biff, the origin game on wednesday came alight after it, no yellow never mind red cards in that game, complete over reaction, 4 yellows at the most, 2 each. After that a complete anti climax, really thought Saints might have staged a comeback, felt it on the terraces too but you are not the same outfit as last year. You are missing Big Red.

Not to be pedantic but Jennings got ten for his part in the biff. And got a weeks ban for his troubles too.

Only one player will be getting a lengthy ban after causing that brawl and it's Gaz Hock. His record of 2 year ban for drugs, gouging, pushing ref and all the other things he's done wont help.

If Magennis has hit him from behind then it's wrong, if your going to fight with someone then at least have the guts to stand toe to toe.

At the end of the day we ain't going to miss Magennis as he's basically rubbish and should be shipped out ASAP but I've a feeling you men will miss gaz hock a little more.

The most sensible comment in this whole thread.

Hock pushing the ref? Nope, grabbed his arm to complain about something.

And going on your logic, you could lose most of the team and not miss them.