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| back on topic, is the season a write off?
Well depends on what your expectations where.
A write off for me would be when interest had dulled, this is different to the point where we were no longer producing results. Been into work today and no one is surprised that Royce went.
As for the season well, it depends what you are aiming for. Personally I'd like to see some better structure to our plays, maybe a decent cup run. Once you hit the semis well its all to play for. Top position is pretty much gone as it would take an unbeaten run for the rest of the season. Top 4 will be difficult but not impossible. Huddersfield did it with 11 losses last year.
Lets say we take a hit on the next 3 then that's 7 losses, but if we can start to turn the corner then we could get a run into the playoffs giving us 5 or maybe even 4 spot.
Then there are games like Warrington at home, Wigan away that regardless of form still generate interest, so is the season a write off, not for me but depends on your initial outlook and what you wanted from the season.
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| The season is not a write off, we won't finish top 2, if we have a great remainder of the season the top 4 is still do able, but even so a top 6 finish with a good run in the play offs and a good cup run and it'll have been a decent season all in all.
That's the benefit of not having league leaders as champions, everyone outside the top 2 still has something to play for  .
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"The knee jerk reaction of Saints was not only ludicrous but an injustice to Royce who only a handful of matches ago had gotten us to within 20 mins of winning the grand final'"
You had written Potter off 80 minutes after a grand final, let alone 7 matches!
I can imagine you being on here talking about knee jerking and giving our Mick the benefit of the doubt had he taken us on our worse run in over 20 years . . . . .
Your reaction to this has been so hypocritical it defies explanation.
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| At the risk of sounding like a cracked record, our entire season boils down to being able to perform on the day in 5 or 6 games in about 6 months' time. We have the squad of players to beat anyone on the day if everyone turns up and the players aren't throwing a strop at the coach at the time. So long as the new guys can send a team onto the pitch in August that is fit and can execute a few plays then we have as much of a chance of silverware as anyone else does.
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| Quote RedVeeSte="RedVeeSte"I still think we will win something this season.'"
wooden spoon?
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| Quote nikos="nikos"wooden spoon?'"
last warning for you sunshine
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I think the point when I wrote Simmons off came with that 'I didn't know what they were doing comment'.
To me, his reaction to that defeat was one of avoiding blame. We didn't plan that, they didn't do what I asked, etc. It was a marked difference to an interview given by Powell at London earlier in the year when he also blamed communication issues on the field for a loss, but then took responsibility by stating that it was an issue he would have to work on, he would have to deal with.
I also noticed something Wellens said in a post match interview after the Bradford game, when he made a point of saying that what was going wrong was not due to a lack of effort in training or on the field. Now I may be looking into this too much, but to me that was a captain placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. When a captain is doing that, especially from such a club man as Wellens, the writing is on the wall for the coach.'"
In a nutshell thats nigh on exactly what i think,its obvious to everyone something was badly wrong this year and better to sort it now than to let it linger week after week.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Rubbish. They had gone off plan and were in a bit of a panic so obviously the coach hadn't a clue what they were doing as it wasn't in the plan. The context of what he said was as if you had asked what on earth someone was doing when they did the exact opposite of what they were supposed to be doing.'"
Don't agree, Royce as games progressed has "lost his team", the players look confused, short of ideas and don,t know which player they will be playing with the following week.
This rotation of players was shocking whilst trying to find form, it was causing confusion and dissallusioment, something that McManus has picked up on.
I have,nt seen any form of plan this season.............just 16 headless chickens. The team needs to get its Mojo back, when we do there is only one direction and that's upwards.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Don't agree, Royce as games progressed has "lost his team", the players look confused, short of ideas and don,t know which player they will be playing with the following week.'"
They were just the same at the start of last season too, or have you conveniently forgotten this? They couldn't attack or defend at first and then the defence began and the attack came later. Strangely enough we were adjusting to no Cunningham (leader) and a new stadium then as well.
Quote Judder ManI have,nt seen any form of plan this season.............just 16 headless chickens. '"
So you didn't attend the pre-panic matches then? Against Catalans they certainly had a plan but it was their defence which let them down. The plan was there. Royce can't force them to stick to it once they are on the pitch though and they lack a leader up front to get them back on track when they go off the plan, so they panic. That isn't Royce's fault. That's the responsibility of the board for not recruiting a leader.
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| Quote brook40="brook40"So if they had gone off plan isnt it the coaches job to put them back on plan ? yes it is,did he ? no he didnt.You can rubbish it all you like,the fact is this season the team has been poor,its the coaches job to sort this out and he didnt/couldnt.'"
 He can't walk on the pitch and tell them to get back on the plan!
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Don't agree, Royce as games progressed has "lost his team", the players look confused, short of ideas and don,t know which player they will be playing with the following week.
This rotation of players was shocking whilst trying to find form, it was causing confusion and dissallusioment, something that McManus has picked up on.
I have,nt seen any form of plan this season.............just 16 headless chickens. The team needs to get its Mojo back, when we do there is only one direction and that's upwards.'"
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"You had written Potter off 80 minutes after a grand final, let alone 7 matches!
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You really are a sad, obsessed person aren't you?
I gave Potter a full season. Only during his second season with us did I end up thinking he was rubbish. And I haven't changed my mind since.
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