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I find it funny that because eddy decides to get on his soap box about something then fans latch onto it like it's the most heinous crime.

If a player is holding the ball it's their responsibility to hold onto it - if a defender has his arms in and around the ball they can easily dislodge it when breaking from the tackle. All Sam is doing is holding tightly onto the ball to stop it being dislodged- what the f*ck is wrong with that.

It;'s the defenders responsibility to get away from the tackle - not the ball carriers to make it easy for them.

If sam started to 'conveniently' lose the ball when in a two man tackle eddie would probably say he is playing for a penalty bu not holding onto it tightly enough.

Some people don't seem to be able to think for themselves and have to be told what to be outraged at.

The only blatant cheating which DID change the outcome of the game was carried out by a leeds player in the last 20 seconds which basically stopped a match winning score - but I guess thats not as good as whinging about a player you dislike because eddie has a bee in his bonnet about him.........

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What a berk.

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Quote: Big Steve "
If a player is holding the ball it's their responsibility to hold onto it - if a defender has his arms in and around the ball they can easily dislodge it when breaking from the tackle. All Sam is doing is holding tightly onto the ball to stop it being dislodged- what the f*ck is wrong with that.

The only blatant cheating which DID change the outcome of the game was carried out by a leeds player in the last 20 seconds which basically stopped a match winning score - but I guess thats not as good as whinging about a player you dislike because eddie has a bee in his bonnet about him.........'"

You clearly are the most biased Wigan fan ever! Of course tomkins knows what he's doing! And it was never going to be a match winning score. McGuire would have caught carmont anyway considering he is twice as fast. It was no different to the type of foul that happens every game. Leeds were penalised and rightly so but that's all it was. Wigan were lucky they got the penalty in in Leeds half!

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On the tomkins issue, I don't see a problem with what he's doing. If he can get away with it then I don't blame him and would say it's clever play. It's the refs job to spot it and enforce the rules.

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Quote: Ashy "You clearly are the most biased Wigan fan ever! '"


You dont read much on Cherry and White do you ? LOL This guy has nothing on Fishta, Rogues, MattyB etc They have a whole crew of deluded and biased posters icon_wink.gif

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Quote: No1 Saint "You dont read much on Cherry and White do you ? LOL This guy has nothing on Fishta, Rogues, MattyB etc They have a whole crew of deluded and biased posters They had a sense of humour bypass and banned me a couple of years ago!

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Quote: Ashy "You clearly are the most biased Wigan fan ever!'"


Hehe - you don't get out much do you ?

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The kicking incident was bizarre. It's not a hard decision - you kick a man on the floor and you get a red card. I've sent a couple of people off for that in the last few years and to my eternal shame I was once dismissed for the same offence during my playing days, which I recognised as the right decision even as I was walking off the pitch. A grounded player is very vulnerable, and for an opponent to deliver a kick in those circumstances is cowardly and dangerous. Instant dismissal. I was genuinely astonished that Tomkins stayed on the pitch after that.

I hope we don't end up with the Aussie-type approach that play-offs are considered somehow exempt from foul-play rules.

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Quote: Roy Haggerty "The kicking incident was bizarre. It's not a hard decision - you kick a man on the floor and you get a red card. I've sent a couple of people off for that in the last few years and to my eternal shame I was once dismissed for the same offence during my playing days, which I recognised as the right decision even as I was walking off the pitch. A grounded player is very vulnerable, and for an opponent to deliver a kick in those circumstances is cowardly and dangerous. Instant dismissal. I was genuinely astonished that Tomkins stayed on the pitch after that.

I hope we don't end up with the Aussie-type approach that play-offs are considered somehow exempt from foul-play rules.'"


Whilst I agree completely with your point, the irony of "Roy Haggerty" lecturing people on the need to eradicate foul play isn't lost on me. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Big Steve "Hehe - you don't get out much do you ?'"

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Well two kick out offences two weeks on the run. - enough said. The pies should take him in hand or he will become more than a penalty machine for them and for us in the four nations.

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Cracking player, but it say's something when a young lad of 23 is the most penalised player in Super League.

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Very good player. Tackles hard and runs some great angles, but, not only does he give away a lot of penalties, he seems to drop the ball quite alot aswell.

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Quote: Agent Mulder "Well two kick out offences two weeks on the run. - enough said. The pies should take him in hand or he will become more than a penalty machine for them and for us in the four nations.'"



unless he can sort his discipline problems out he shouldn't be anywhere near the plane to Aus and NZ.

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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "unless he can sort his discipline problems out [sizehe shouldn't be anywhere near the plane [/sizeto Aus and NZ.'"


you are right; he will probably fight with the pilot. icon_lol.gif

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