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| Quote: pedro17 "Dont think he would really. When Renouf came he was past his best (still good) but Lyon was awesome and in his prime.'"
It is a shame it's a match-up we'll never see. It could have been epic.
Without seeing it, it'd be hard to say either of them is truly the "Best Centre SL has ever seen".
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| Quote: Fishsta "Lots of typical Wigan guff'"
Kirk Yeaman best centre in the league and Puletua better than Graham.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "And yet, some of our older fans who remember the 70s, 80s and 90s Saints teams, when winning something was like a dream, are the very same fans who are upset at what has happened to Saints over the last 9 months. The point is not the loss; it's the style of play and that style of play began to display itself mid season last season, and many of us believe is the result of Potter's influence on the team.'"
Spot on mate. I remember us being crap but we were never this dull. I enjoy willing like the rest of us but if we cant win I'd at least rather see us go down in style!
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Spot on mate. I remember us being crap but we were never this dull. I enjoy willing like the rest of us but if we cant win I'd at least rather see us go down in style!'"
I can never remember you guys being crap. When we were winning everything you guys were always there or there abouts. In nearly every final or semi, I know its not winning trophies but you guys were never crap.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Kirk Yeaman best centre in the league and Puletua better than Graham.
I still think Senior is the best centre in the league and Puletua if played at prop every game would be interesting to see how he compares to Graham.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Kirk Yeaman best centre in the league and Puletua better than Graham.
I never actually said either of that, you dolt.
"Strong competition from Kirk Yeaman". Do you dispute this?
"I'm a bigger fan of Puletua". Yes, I am, do you dispute this?
Engage brain before posting, please.
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| Quote: Fishsta ""Strong competition from Kirk Yeaman". Do you dispute this?'"
Yes.
Quote: Fishsta ""I'm a bigger fan of Puletua". Yes, I am, do you dispute this?'"
I assume you're a bigger fan due to thinking he's a better player? I don't dispute that you're a bigger fan of TP, I dispute your sanity and/or eyesight.
Quote: Fishsta "Engage brain before posting, please.'"
If only you could.
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| Quote: pedro17 "I can never remember you guys being crap. When we were winning everything you guys were always there or there abouts. In nearly every final or semi, I know its not winning trophies but you guys were never crap.'"
And we weren't that crap, a few semis, a few finals - and George Mann
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Yes.'"
Then you're an idiot.
Quote: FearTheVee "I assume you're a bigger fan due to thinking he's a better player? I don't dispute that you're a bigger fan of TP, I dispute your sanity and/or eyesight.'"
Then you're a bigger idiot. Puletua is a strong, clean player who lets his rugby do the talking. No ego, no bad sportsmanship. A fine example of a player. Whilst Graham has talent, he is dirty, acts like a spoiled brat when things don't go his way, and is a very bad sport. With some work, I could become a fan of him, but at the moment, I don't want him anywhere near my team.
No doubt you'll try and dress this up as "passion", but I would say Puletua has passion too. As do many great CLEAN players.
Quote: FearTheVee "If only you could.'"
That's about as close you can get to "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I" as you can get. Hope you got parental permission before you joined this forum.
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| Quote: ExiledWool "And we weren't that crap, a few semis, a few finals - and George Mann'"
thats right
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"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: St_Maca "Some of these gloating posts after round one of the competition will be remembered when the season draws to it's end. Saints still have the best individual talents & players in the league by some distance and if they could be bothered to be cohesive and return to the flair rugby they can quite easily dispose of any side in this league.'"
Sorry but I don't agree with that. We have a lot of deadwood in that team at the moment. I'd say we have 1 top class player, a lot of average players and few that are rubbish.
Combine that with a coach that has no idea and we've got problems.
I just hope we have a lot of players off contract next year!
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| Quote: St pete "Sorry but I don't agree with that. We have a lot of deadwood in that team at the moment. I'd say we have 1 top class player, a lot of average players and few that are rubbish.
Combine that with a coach that has no idea and we've got problems.
I just hope we have a lot of players off contract next year!'"
have to disagree,
how many players hae left and joined since last year and the year before? People were not moaning 2 years ago under Anderson.
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| Quote: pedro17 "have to disagree,
how many players hae left and joined since last year and the year before? People were not moaning 2 years ago under Anderson.'"
2yrs is a long time ago pal.Fozz, wello, gidley, pryce and kc are all 2yrs older and not getting better with age.
Also longy, scully, talau, gilmour and few others have moved on so how you can compare this team with the team 2yrs ago?
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| Scully barely played 2 years ago Soliolo <--(whatever) is as good as Talau on paper and Longy has been replaced by Eastmond
Are you saying the players have gone from good to average or even rubbish or have they always been that?
Same thing happened to us. Eventually you will have a mass exodus from your core and have to rebuild, problem with us is that its still going on 15 years later.
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| In my opinion Saints have been in decline for the past four years, because in that time they have been in 4 grand finals and 3 CC finals...My standards are alot higher than this and therefore Saints are a spent force.....
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