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| Quote: The Doghead "Just been on the council stadium site, it looks like plans have been updated, or superseeded it says.
It gives more info, looks like the sports bar is now a cafe bar.
scroll to just above consultation.'"
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| Quote: The Doghead "212.248.225.150:8080/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID
Did you read through all THAT? 
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| Quote: The Doghead "There are a few changes I have spotted, the large function room has moved, 174 seated in the restaurant.
Thats great Doghaed.
It looks like they have posted the latest plans.
You can see clearly now how things will look and the general layout of the stadium.
Its interesting how every stand has seats , though the two stands behind the sticks have seats only on the front row, presumably these are aimed mainly at helpers of disabled fans, or maybe fans who like to be with the atmosphere but havent got the legs to stand up for 80 minutes.
There are also pics of the various elevations which show extensive use of glass. Hopefully this will make the stadium quite light and not like some concrete bunker.
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Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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Tesco generate the values for the site to be developed. I couldn't see Langtree developing the site without a commercial partner. There would be no financial gain for them. Simple really.
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| Quote: The Doghead "212.248.225.150:8080/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName
Perhaps one of the biggest complaints from the fans about Warrington's new ground when it opened was that people were too squashed in the standing areas.
This actually lead to the capacity being reduced by the club. From these up-dated drawings Saints have based the terracing upon each person having 0.26/m2. Not sure how this relates to Warrington's stadium.
I know I'd try not to share my 1m2 with three fatties.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Perhaps one of the biggest complaints from the fans about Warrington's new ground when it opened was that people were too squashed in the standing areas.
This actually lead to the capacity being reduced by the club. From these up-dated drawings Saints have based the terracing upon each person having 0.26/m2. Not sure how this relates to Warrington's stadium.
I know I'd try not to share my 1m2 with three fatties.'"
If you read through Council stadium site it clearly state's that if the stadium capacity does not reach what was asked for, the developers bond will be call in.
Maximum person allowed to stand in a sports stadium is 47 per 10m2, which works out at .21m2 of space per person, Saints stadium is .26m2, per person, which works out at 38 persons per 10m2.
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| Quote: The Doghead "If you read through Council stadium site it clearly state's that if the stadium capacity does not reach what was asked for, the developers bond will be call in.
Maximum person allowed to stand in a sports stadium is 47 per 10m2, which works out at .21m2 of space per person, Saints stadium is .26m2, per person, which works out at 38 persons per 10m2.
$hit Ia'm bored.'"
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| Quote: The Doghead "If you read through Council stadium site it clearly state's that if the stadium capacity does not reach what was asked for, the developers bond will be call in.
Maximum person allowed to stand in a sports stadium is 47 per 10m2, which works out at .21m2 of space per person, Saints stadium is .26m2, per person, which works out at 38 persons per 10m2.
$hit Ia'm bored.'"
Thanks for that, i was looking for density info re standing on terraces last night.
I was worried Saints might do what Wire did, and use minimum space, then find their ground didnt hold as many as was designed for.
Hence why wires ground which was built for 14200 only holds 13k. |
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Does this mean after opening the ground and testing it out we could find our capacity crowd slightly higher than initially thought or is the 18,000 about right?
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| Quote: Blobbynator "Does this mean after opening the ground and testing it out we could find our capacity crowd slightly higher than initially thought or is the 18,000 about right?'"
Its an interesting thought.
However planning permission is only for stadium no higher than 17984. So i presume we would need to appply for further permission to increase it further.
Considering the two end terraces are each bigger than Wires end terrace, despite more generous capacity calculations at Saints, then i dont think there will be problems with the terraces capacity being grossly inadequate to meet demand. |
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| Quote: The Doghead "If you read through Council stadium site it clearly state's that if the stadium capacity does not reach what was asked for, the developers bond will be call in.'"
Not quite that clearly apparently, as the bond is only put in place when they want to open the Tesco store before the stadium is complete. The bond is for the value of the outstanding value of the stadium works and in effect is a "guarantee" for the council that Langtree will finish off the stadium works even though the money generating part of the development is up and running ie if Langtree don't finish the stadium the Council call the bond in and use that money to finish the stadium. |
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Not quite that clearly apparently, as the bond is only put in place when they want to open the Tesco store before the stadium is complete. The bond is for the value of the outstanding value of the stadium works and in effect is a "guarantee" for the council that Langtree will finish off the stadium works even though the money generating part of the development is up and running ie if Langtree don't finish the stadium the Council call the bond in and use that money to finish the stadium.'"
Could you explain that in English please for those of us who can't do property stuff? 
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| Quote: Blobbynator "Does this mean after opening the ground and testing it out we could find our capacity crowd slightly higher than initially thought or is the 18,000 about right?'"
just been messing with some of the figures on the standing area's, there is plenty of leeway even in the figures given on the drawings never mind allowing for the maximum number of person's.
Add 1,800 more people if they one day allow the maximum amount in. |
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