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| Quote: Random Male "Re Gardner. He collected the ball on the bounce with 2 wigan players in front of him, about 10m apart. He had plenty of space to try and go round the opposite winger and back himself, but instead he comes inside, jogs for a bit, then walks into the defender and falls over. Does he not have the confidence to at least try and beat a man?'"
i always say that he never runs the ball with any pace and then just falls to the ground.
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| Quote: OoOGazOoO "I dont think Meli played that badly at all apart from his shocker in the first half.
Amos had an absolute nightmare.'"
Meli didnt have much to do fielding kicks really which is a good job because the ones he did get he mainly c0cked up. Right near the end with us winning he made another mess of one but lucky for us we got away with it.
As per the other comments Meli is ok with his tackling when players are running at him but then you'd expect that from a man as big and strong as him
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| Quote: Saint Simon " Ade did drop one, ....'"
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When he dropped that ball, I dropped one too!
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| Quote: Saint from Prestwich "can someone put Meli on the next plane home to NZ.He cost us the try and nearly handed Wigan possession back in the last minute when he couldn't catch a basic kick.'"
Any positive comments about our performance?................... Thought not.
We won FFS and in atrocious conditions. Or were you so geared up mentally for a defeat that you had to come on here anyway and spout negative crap? I really don't know why you bother.
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| Quote: Saint from Prestwich "can someone put Meli on the next plane home to NZ.He cost us the try and nearly handed Wigan possession back in the last minute when he couldn't catch a basic kick.'"
Any positive comments about our performance?................... Thought not.
We won FFS and in atrocious conditions. Or were you so geared up mentally for a defeat that you had to come on here anyway and spout negative crap? I really don't know why you bother.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| I think meli has done ok this year but can't take any type of kick. High or along the ground he has huge problems.
Gardner is pretty good under high kick but that's all he's good at.
Gardner is like a magnet to the other teams defence! He just runs straight at the defence. He won't try and beat a man.
He is also very slow and weak in defence.
I'd take meli over him anyday.
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| Quote: St pete "I think meli has done ok this year but can't take any type of kick. High or along the ground he has huge problems.
Gardner is pretty good under high kick but that's all he's good at.
Gardner is like a magnet to the other teams defence! He just runs straight at the defence. He won't try and beat a man.
He is also very slow and weak in defence.
I'd take meli over him anyday.'"
Gardner gets boomed nearly every time he takes the ball at the defence.
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| Can't win Gardner, he got slagged off for running sideways earlier on in his career and now he runs it in hard and straight he's still getting slagged off.
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King piemon wrote - What a pile of $hit
It was cack the whole team and i for one aint impressed
AJ wrote - Sean Long once again tore us to pieces. Its all well and good us singing Sean Long is a W@nker, but he was laughing back along by conducting the chant whilst ripping us to bits.
Robinson wrote - Saints - it depends on whether the side can get over their mental block. We're more than capable of beating 'Dads Army', but it appears that Wigan still shiit themselves at the mere sight of a red V.:27550.jpg |
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| Meli is and if he played for Wigan or Wire we'd all be laughing at him. Does he have to cost us another grand final before people realise what a liability he is.. The arrow from Barrow looks low on confidence, Thankfully Super League is low on good wingers so they get away with it most weeks
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| Quote: St.Dave "Meli is poop and if he played for Wigan or Wire we'd all be laughing at him. Does he have to cost us another grand final before people realise what a liability he is.. The arrow from Barrow looks low on confidence, Thankfully Super League is low on good wingers so they get away with it most weeks'"
Meli did not cost us the Final on his own.
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| Quote: Ski "Meli did not cost us the Final on his own.'" true, but he didn't exactly help either!
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11659.jpg Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand.
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Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too.
Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record.
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Ancient & Royal wrote....
"You are proud to be associated with that dis-organised band of mercenaries?
I am ashamed to be a Wigan fan hell yes, what have we got to be un-ashamed about? We are a joke, a laughing stock, we are NOTHING, why cant people understand!":11659.jpg |
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| Let's face facts. We have Wingers who are good enough to keep us at the top and they have been our 1st choice for 4 years now and in Ade's case a lot longer, however neither of them are anywhere near as good as Uncle Albert was. When Meli or Gardner goes we need an athletic speed merchant similar to Donald. Also I don't care where they come from, whether it be Australia, NZ or Outer Mongolia as long as they can catch, defend and give us back a long range threat which we haven't had since Albert and then Lyon left in all honesty.
If a half decent player with the slightest bit of pace gets through us we are found wanting and we can never ever get back to catch them. Look at Carvell's try vs Wire.
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| Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Let's face facts. We have Wingers who are good enough to keep us at the top and they have been our 1st choice for 4 years now and in Ade's case a lot longer, however neither of them are anywhere near as good as Uncle Albert was. When Meli or Gardner goes we need an athletic speed merchant similar to Donald. Also I don't care where they come from, whether it be Australia, NZ or Outer Mongolia as long as they can catch, defend and give us back a long range threat which we haven't had since Albert and then Lyon left in all honesty.
If a half decent player with the slightest bit of pace gets through us we are found wanting and we can never ever get back to catch them. Look at Carvell's try vs Wire.
We are absolutely crying out for a fast winger who is also strong on defence. Its one posiiton or should I say two positions where we cannot match other teams. IMHO Riley at Warrington (even though he is still young), Richards, Donald and Fox are all well in front of them in terms of ability. Compared to a few years back Saints were a threat from 100 metres out because of our speedy players. Unfortunately teams now know we are not the quickest and thats why Ridell on Friday kept kicking it dead knowing that we would struggle to go 75 metres to get a try.
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| Meli's shirt has always been in jeopardy, but Gardner's form has also been pretty alarming this season. He's still a top-class finisher and his tackling and marking are fine. But the jitters of old have returned to haunt his kick receiving. And that's a major problem if we do get through to the GF to play Leeds because they will target both ruthlessly.
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11659.jpg Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand.
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Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too.
Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record.
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Ancient & Royal wrote....
"You are proud to be associated with that dis-organised band of mercenaries?
I am ashamed to be a Wigan fan hell yes, what have we got to be un-ashamed about? We are a joke, a laughing stock, we are NOTHING, why cant people understand!":11659.jpg |
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| Quote: Murphys Magic "We are absolutely crying out for a fast winger who is also strong on defence. Its one posiiton or should I say two positions where we cannot match other teams. IMHO Riley at Warrington (even though he is still young), Richards, Donald and Fox are all well in front of them in terms of ability. Compared to a few years back Saints were a threat from 100 metres out because of our speedy players. Unfortunately teams now know we are not the quickest and thats why Ridell on Friday kept kicking it dead knowing that we would struggle to go 75 metres to get a try.'"
I really think Riley is worth a punt if we could get him. Certainly more speed than we have and something about the lad, always gives it all. Only problem is that he can make a clanger just like anyone and some have been quite bad, but no worse than Meli. Riley is still young. Meli has no improvement in him.
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