Some things don't change

I think I would have to move to another country should Wigan manage to actually win something this season. It would be far too much to take. It just amazes me that there is such ridiculous fawning over their players. Players like Bailey, Fielden, Riddell, Phelps, Leuleuai, Feka and so on are no better than they were last season when the Wigan fans wanted them dead. Now they've got a new coach who has brought a bit of solidity to them and they all think their players are incredible all of a sudden.

Pat Richards is the best winger in the world apparently.
Amos Roberts is the best fullback there has ever been.
Fielden is just an incredible player.
Mossop is the resurrection of Jesus.
O'Loughlin is better than Wally Lewis ever was and makes Hanley look like Ricky Bibey.

I have to say I'm not a fan of this slowing down of the play the ball at all regardless of which team does it. For me it's not a rugby skill it's a wrestling skill. And the way teams do or don't get penalised just sends out a message that it's ok to slow the PTB down one way but not another way when neither way is really in the spirit of the game.

Why is it ok to pile 4 men into a tackle and all get off one at a time like you've got arthritis, but it's not ok to put your hand on the ball for half a second? The first one slows down play for 10 seconds (but it's allowed) the second slows down play for 1 second but results in a penalty.

And I'm thoroughly sick of watching Paul Cullen with his timer getting all excited over how well teams manage to slow down the play the ball.

you have no idea. Solid effort though.

Think how his players must feel.

Rubbish, Locky was only knocked by the odd numpty (baked bean boogie or something like that to be exact) but more than 90% appreciate everythin Locky does at Wigan. The only players some had gripes with or used as scapegoats most weeks as you call them was Roberts, Tim Smith, Mathers and Karl Pryce (2 which have left and rightly so). I was one of the few that defended Roberts because I'd seen enough of his games in the NRL to know he was a class player and I never thought he was as bad as people made him out to be, just that he wasn't showing the form that he was until he got injured.

I love it how fans at other clubs think they know more with what's beeing said at our club than what we do and like to create their own little poxy stories.

Yet you and the old man spend half your time passing judgment on all things Saints (maybe others too). I know what I read and I know what I've heard when attending Wigan matches with friends - You can add to the list above Fielden , Coley and for his entire first season the holy one .. Pat Richards.

I really cant be bothered to dig out links to all the 'not fit to wear the shirt' threads and 'not Wigan class' crap thats been posted over the last few years on Cherry and White.. it's hardly suprising you never saw them as your too busy talking about Saints.

And you clearly spend more time on the Wigan site, I only post on Saints site if something comes up about Wigan which quite ironically the subject on this topic is Wigan! Hardly talking about Saints.

You've had your ar*e handed to you on a plate mate. Move on.

Hardly, I've proved that I only talk about Wigan on here if a topic comes up about us and not Saints which he was implying, hardly having my ar*e handed on a plate as you politely put it. I didn't realise it was wrong to post on someone elses site when there's a topic about my team

Still, keep the hate and jealousy coming guys. It's great to be the top team again! ( At the moment ).

Ahem.... Rickey Bibey has 2 Challenge Cup winners medals.

Car stereos?