Motivation to make sure I don't get another one, I've got plenty winners ones though

Everyone deals with stuff in a different way and personally I dont like being reminded of being second best.

not at all. Like I said each to there own. All my winners medals are at my Grandad's. I bet you have a decent collection of medals from your Orrell days.

On topic though I think Jammer will rip it up over in Aus, with a bit of luck he'll put a few Aussie and Kiwi test players on their ar$e$ this series.

Better than Morley, Peacock, McDermott, i don't think so.




Don't talk wet.

Sika Manu/Adam Blair, Petero Civenaceva, Morley.

Graham is a great english forward, but the jury is still out on whether he will be a success over in the NRL, and for the record I hope he does go and rip it up.

A change is as good as a rest they say - this may be especially true for a workaholic prop, who should play fewer minutes each week in the NRL than he has for Sts (not to mention new country, new team etc). The only thing I think he'll need to do is to go back to basics a bit to start off with - forget about being an extra ball-player, and just do the hard work.

I hope he goes well in the NRL. He is a very good player.

Having been at the game on Saturday I have a new-found respect for Graham for the way he consoled Makinson (I think) at the final hooter. If anyone could be forgiven moping and crying about losing yet another GF then it would be Graham. Showed true leadership for me and proved beyond all reasonable doubt that he will be massively missed by Saints. Well done and all the very best of luck to him in Oz.

Are you having a laugh? Peacock you can make a case for and perhaps you could even inflate a case to suggest that Morley is fit to lace Graham's boots but McDermott? You've must have seen another McDermott to the ones I've seen pal.

He and Peacock have between them been head-and-shoulders the best props of the last decade, and for all the pantomime abuse every Leeds fan would have had him in their team like a shot.

The only other one you could make a case for is Bradford-era Fielden who was completely dominant in his time. The worry for Graham is that Fielden became a shadow of the player after being flogged like a dray-horse for a number of years and you could see Graham going the same way. The fact that he'll have less gametime and probably better conditioning in the NRL gives him a shot at maintaining his standards and I hope he does. He'll have to pack plenty of sunblock though.

Although I do not watch him every week like you guys, from what I've seen this season, he hasn't quite hit the heights of the previous 4 seasons. He is probably being watched more by defences who know that he has a deadly tip on, and also like someone mentioned earlier, we probably do take his performances for granted after so many years of being superb. I just hope he's not burning out ala Fielden, as well.

Brian was great at Bradford imo. But to say that Morley is only just fit to lace graham's boots is an absolute farce.

My list would be Morley, Peacock, Graham in that order. Morley has done it all and is therefore the best prop SL has ever seen.

Just seen this on Wikipedia
Adrian is the son of former Coronation Street and pantomime star Ken Morley, and even appeared in one of his father's double-glazing television advertisements during the late 1990's.'"

Nothing like a bit of revisionist history. Prior to Australia Morley was a raw talent. He was forced to turn himself around in Australia where he had one outstanding season and the rest were ok. But let's not forget that he came within an inch of being banned out of the game in the NRL. At international level he disgraced himself by getting sent off in the first 10 seconds of a game and in the very same series (?) he disgraced the shirt he was wearing (sponsored by "Think!"icon_wink.gif by getting caught drunk behind the wheel. He has calmed down since returning from the NRL and is now fulfilling his potential. But let's not forget the years in which he turned out some pretty inconsistent form. Graham has been consistent and a model pro off the field since he first made the team.

Indeed. Those thoughts went through my head when I saw that. Didn't think about himself or mope about there, carried on his job as captain and consoled the heartbroken kids in the team. Brought a lump to the throat that did.

Good luck Jammer.

Apart from Grannygate and the car window.