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| Quote: FearTheVee "Sigh.
I know people have enjoyed quoting Sculthorpe allegedly having a go at Potter as some sort of justification that he's a clueless coach. The thing is, people tend not to quote a couple of Scully's more pertinent comments
Sorry. Didn't realise irony was now banned.
The alternative view is that the players have done very well this year in spite of Potter. Hmmm?
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| Quote: saint at wire "Sorry. Didn't realise irony was now banned.
The alternative view is that the players have done very well this year in spite of Potter. Hmmm?'"
S'pose Catalan did very well in spite of him also?
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| Quote: saint at wire "The alternative view is that the players have done very well this year in spite of Potter. Hmmm?'"
You wonder why anybody bothers having a coach at all, since the players can sort themselves out so easily.
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| Quote: Cragganmore Kid "S'pose Catalan did very well in spite of him also?'"
Different set of players, different culture, different expectations ...
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| Quote: FearTheVee "The cameras weren't trained on the changing rooms for the whole of half time - we have no idea what was and wasn't said and by whom.'"
Good point you are right.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Different set of players, different culture, different expectations ...'"
You mean our players aren't as good as Catalans players were?
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "You mean our players aren't as good as Catalans players were?'"
Where did I say that?
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| Wellens could do with moving to loose forward IMO.
PS Your 3rd in the league, I would lay off Potter a wee bit.
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| Quote: post "Wellens could do with moving to loose forward IMO.
PS Your 3rd in the league, I would lay off Potter a wee bit.'"
And almost certainly CC semi-finalists.
Most of us are laying off him, but some people have made their minds up and will use any tenuous reason to support their opinions.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| I've said it once before that under Anderson Saints looked invincible, now under Potter you are beatable.
That's no disrespect to Potter or the team now it's just Anderson was a good coach and was fortunate to have a good core of players as was Millward but with Sculthorpe and Long gone, Cunningham going and Wellens not as good as he once was it is inevitable you might struggle despite who the coach is, even if you get Wayne Bennet in you would be in the same situation with players injured and senior players leaving.
It happened to us when Farrell, Rads, Newton, Lam, O'Connor, Cassidy, Smith etc left, the only way to get over it is to build from the ground up, it will take time as well as a few pastings from over the lump just as we had to take.
In my eyes he isn't that bad, it could be worse, you could be bottom of the league and out of the cup with Eastmond going to RU and Graham off to the NRL. Look on the brightside eh?
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| Quote: post "I've said it once before that under Anderson Saints looked invincible, now under Potter you are beatable.
That's no disrespect to Potter or the team now it's just Anderson was a good coach and was fortunate to have a good core of players as was Millward but with Sculthorpe and Long gone, Cunningham going and Wellens not as good as he once was it is inevitable you might struggle despite who the coach is, even if you get Wayne Bennet in you would be in the same situation with players injured and senior players leaving.
It happened to us when Farrell, Rads, Newton, Lam, O'Connor, Cassidy, Smith etc left, the only way to get over it is to build from the ground up, it will take time as well as a few pastings from over the lump just as we had to take.
In my eyes he isn't that bad, it could be worse, you could be bottom of the league and out of the cup with Eastmond going to RU and Graham off to the NRL. Look on the brightside eh?'"
We were beatable under Anderson, check out our GF record . Harry still has a great chance to win us the big one - would that make him the better coach? Who knows. If we did win the title, we'd still have fans claiming it was despite Potter.
The game has changed - SL is as tight as ever at the top. Realistically, given a bit of luck and a bounce of the ball you could see Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Bradford, Huddersfield or Leeds becoming champions in October. That's never been known and, while it might knock us all-conquering Saints down a peg or two, it's great for the game.
I don't see us as being in the same boat as the Wigan scenario you refer to. Scully we had to replace years ago, even though he was officially on the books for some time after that. Long has been replaced by Eastmond, who is a more than adequate replacement for the Long we saw during his last 2 seasons with us.
I don't think we'll see the kind of pastings we dished out to Wigan during our dominance, simply because the two teams are much closer together now - as it should be. Some Wigan fans are getting a bit giddy with their top of the league position - we should know, that counts for nowt in May.
You're right though, things could be much, much worse. We're all but in a CC semi, very well placed for a shot at the GF and this is despite having some major injuries to key personnel throughout the season so far.
Good times, IMO.
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| Quote: Era of the Biff "All this from someone who didn't even go support the team today.
The club dont need supporters like you.'"
The club needs every supporter it can get.
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| Quote: post "It happened to us when Farrell, Rads, Newton, Lam, O'Connor, Cassidy, Smith etc left, the only way to get over it is to build from the ground up, it will take time as well as a few pastings from over the lump just as we had to take. '"
We've already replaced players from successful sides like Prescott/Newlove/Sullivan/Lyon/Albert/Martyn/Long/Goulding/Perelini/Joynt/Sculthorpe/Gilmour/Cayless/Anderson etc etc.
We started building from the ground up a long time ago, our best players this season are predominately players through the academy (Eastmond/Roby/Graham/Clough).
It's nothing like what happened at Wigan and there will be no Millward-esque pastings coming our way - you won the last game against our easy beats because you kicked more penalties than we did.
We're 4 points off top and almost certainly in the CC Semis, not bottom of the league like Wigan were when they lost some big players and had a few injuries.
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| Quote: post "Wellens could do with moving to loose forward IMO.
PS Your 3rd in the league, I would lay off Potter a wee bit.'"
Saints have half a dozen lads that could play 13 better than Wellens.
If he wants to play 13, I don't reckon it will be at Saints.
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| i hope to god the players dont bother wasting there time reading this crap
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