Rugby League is not just a game. It is much more important than that.

And I wouldn't blame him one little bit.

I suspect if that happened that would signal a mass non renewal of season tickets and some significant protests. The club would lose far more than it gained by a sale.

Feeling sorry for our Pie Munching friends over the lump though we could offer them a bargin with Wellens

He is tarnishing his legacy , certainly for newer fans who've only ever seen the crap version of Wello.

He was anonymous last night. Literally just a warm body on the pitch, except for that break he made in the second half.

I'd be delighted if that were true, but can't see it happening; Jonny's been a Saints fan since he was a little lad playing for OSJ. I think he'll stay loyal to you.

Also 11,400 against Widnes, I seam to recall thinking that last year we'd be hoping to get between 14,000 to a sell out.

I maybe wrong but 11,400 does not seam to different to playing Widnes at KR. Don't get me wrong we needed the move, but it does seam people are now voting with their feet.

We actually had people sat around us who walked out just after half time. These are older fans too, not your run of the mill bandwagon jumpers. Rightly or wrongly, they said they couldn't stand to watch it any longer.

I fear come the end of the season, if the club doesn't do some PR work and damage limitation soon, people could start questioning whether they are getting value for money. The silence isnt doing the club any favours IMO.

One guy was hung over the dugout as the players were walking off the pitch. Lets just say he was questioning some individuals about their performances and stating that he pays hard earned money to watch a bit of effort. One of the high paid under performing imports looked at him, laughed in his face and walked off. Whilst I know the individual in question was venting his frustration, but the reaction of the player should have been to ignore it, the message he conveyed was the wrong one IMO.

The attendances have been the same all season though. We've consistently been down between 2,000 and 3,000 on last season. I rather think 2012 was the blip; people were curious about the new stadium.

Spot-on, that Saints team should have been good enough to turn Widnes over. There are major issues behind the scenes.

I think we can guess which overpaid import you refer to

Came very close to cutting up my season ticket up last night more in anger rather than frustration or dissapointment.
Far too many games this year were the players attitude is the worse I,ve seen since I,ve supporting the saints over the decades.
All the players with the exception of Walmsley, Thompson and Gardner couldn,t be bothered last night.
If they don,t show any passion for the saints shirt and keep coming up with this can,t be bothered attitude then Ill pack in and watch amateur rugby instead.

It is the imports who are really letting us down. They seem to have made a pact that they are just not interested. They are not that bad are they? I must say it is affecting the walk up crowd now. 11k against our closest rivals is poor

I would 100% let Laffranchi, Perry and TP go. They are off contract and don't deserve new deals.

The other import is Hohaia, we might have trouble getting shut of him. I can't see any NRL side paying the money we are and giving him a long deal like we did.

I'd consider keeping TP if he was a bench player but we'd need to bring in two good hard working props to play along side him