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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"And a coach.'"
Exactly.Rush once again out of his depth.I only hope if Brown does not show up that Rush is not given the job.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"A blind idiot with no clue about Rugby (someone like Rogues) can see we are missing a proper halfback to play alongside Lomax, that maybe Gaskell but sadly we havent ad chance to find out this year.'"
Does that make Royce Simmons and McManus blind idiots ?
Just gets me angry knowing that everyone in the world knows you don't win things without halfbacks.
I'm starting to feel that lomax isn't good enough in the halves. Don't get me wrong I really rate him but is he a #7 ?
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| Quote Saint from Prestwich="Saint from Prestwich"Exactly.Rush once again out of his depth.I only hope if Brown does not show up that Rush is not given the job.'"
Strong one going around Billinge at the moment is Brian Smith will be coaching Saints next season. Should make the Saints V Warrrington matches interesting next season.
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| Quote Ninja saint="Ninja saint"Does that make Royce Simmons and McManus blind idiots ?
Just gets me angry knowing that everyone in the world knows you don't win things without halfbacks.
I'm starting to feel that lomax isn't good enough in the halves. Don't get me wrong I really rate him but is he a #7 ?'"
He would be fine with a decent partner, it would take pressure off him and allow him to develop his game. Simmons and McManus must take the blame for signing a utility player/fullback and expecting him to be our 'lead' halfback.
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| Quote centralparkforever="centralparkforever"Strong one going around Billinge at the moment is Brian Smith will be coaching Saints next season. Should make the Saints V Warrrington matches interesting next season.'"
Started by Rogues? 
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"He would be fine with a decent partner, it would take pressure off him and allow him to develop his game. Simmons and McManus must take the blame for signing a utility player/fullback and expecting him to be our 'lead' halfback.'"
I think hohaia would be excellent for us at fullback but that not going to happen.
His cover tackle on myler today was top class.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Simmons and McManus must take the blame for signing a utility player/fullback and expecting him to be our 'lead' halfback.'"
Except, of course, Simmons didn't play Hohaia at halfback, which was probably one reason he got the sack. He stated openly he wanted to work with Gaskell and Lomax, and help them learn how to deal with adversity (lessons, if they'd had the chance to be taught, which would have been invaluable today).
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| Hohaia had a desperately poor start to the season. But, as I suspected, he has steadily improved since the mid-point as he has grown accustomed to his team-mates.
However, my biggest criticism of Hohaia still stands - his support play is terrible. A guy with his footspeed should be on the shoulder of every ball-handling forward. Playing him at fullback would undoubtedly mean we start every set five or more yards further up the pitch. But he would pose nothing like the threat Wellens does in support.
A bad move.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Started by Rogues?
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There is some truth in it. He is keen to come back to the U.K. after being sacked by the Roosters. He was in line to go back to the Bulls before they decided to give the job to Cummings. You never know Bradfords loss could be your gain.
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| I dont think halves is that big a problem. I think its selecting the right player in the right position
For example Wheeler and Gaskell are both naturally gifted half backs, but Saints have insisted on playing Hohoia and Lomax in the halves when arguably both would be better utilised as fullbacks. (obviously not both at the same time)
Wello has been a revelation this year, but we need to be looking to move Lomax into that position or possibly Swift.
Hohoia would for me be a utility bench player.
Pack is fine, it is big tough and mobile. Next year should be even better with Manu causing havoc out wide
Threequarters. Meli has been our best back and Makinson is looking like developing into a solid pro. Gardner was strong before his injury, but you have to ask if its getting to the stage were both Meli and Gardner need putting out to pasture to let the young guns get their chance. Foster certainly needs bringing back from the wilderness as he is a points machine who showed at Hull that he is no flash in the pan.
Im hopeful Jordan Turner will add some pace and power into the centres next year. Alongside a further year of development for Josh Jones.
The main thing though is getting a top class coach to mold what is a group of very talented players into a trophy winning team. Brown for me is capable of that, however i am sceptical he will ever coach a St.Helens team due to his talents being in great demand down under.
What we also have to do is look at the opposition and what the next couple of years look like yielding for them.
Wigan look like a rapidly fading force. Players are leaving on mass, to be replaced by journeymen pros. For me this year was their last great chance to get some decent silver before spending a few years trying to rebuild. Like Saints have the junior talent to remain a top 5 team though.
Wire will be up there for a year or two until their pensioners all start to retire, then they could hit the buffers bigtime. Simon Moran will then need to start splashing the cash, something they are well capable of doing however.
Leeds. Still a big game team, and the nucleus of the side Sinfield, Burrows & Mcguire still have a few years left in them. Will always challenge as they are the only real genuine contender from Yorkshire, so know that if they are short in a position they just have to pick off talent from any of their weak west Yorkshire rivals.
Hull looking to make a push next season with some big signings. Suffer though from being in Hull, which makes recruitment harder due to the isolated nature of their city.
The rest are easy beats.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Hohaia had a desperately poor start to the season. But, as I suspected, he has steadily improved since the mid-point as he has grown accustomed to his team-mates.
However, my biggest criticism of Hohaia still stands - his support play is terrible. A guy with his footspeed should be on the shoulder of every ball-handling forward. Playing him at fullback would undoubtedly mean we start every set five or more yards further up the pitch. But he would pose nothing like the threat Wellens does in support.
A bad move.'"
He's not got a rugby brain and speed of thought to play in the halves. IMO he's the best fullback at the club.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"A scrum half.
A leader.
Pace.
Skill.'"
A trophy
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