A forward pack of Jammer clones with Roby in his usual Role!!!! Anyone thinking what i'm thinking?

I think we need our own version of "Godwin's Law" applied to all Saints sites whereby any thread that mentions the "L" word gets automatically locked and closed...

People STILL under-rating Clough.

Anyone with half a RL brain can see what he offers our team. A dead cert to get a new contract and rightly so.

Think I,m one of those that don,t rate him, he needs to step up a gear. I know he has his injury problems last season. But for me he,s not aggressive, very rarely makes a break or an offload. What I don,t like is the way he turns his back to the opposition on contact, which tells me he has surrendered momentum.
Hope Royce changes his style in offence, he needs to start the season with a bang and get on the front foot with momentum, if he stays at the same level pre injury, then in my opinion he won,t be good enough for another contract.

I like him, but I would not say a dead cert for a contract. Anyone who was a dead cert for a contract has already got one. So unless he's holding out for more money ( unlikely given he has no form due to injury to back this up), in all likelyhood those who start the season with no contract are either not going to get one, or are going to be playing for a new one.

The only player I can see holding out for other offers or a better contract is Sia. He has performance and age on his side. Performed well last year and is stil young enough to go back to the NRL. Whether he is wanted is another matter, unless you were previously a bit hit in Oz, then players very rarely go back from SL to the NRL. Not sure what image he had over there before he left.

I don't see a problem with that because it allows him to bounce off the tackler and get more yards or force more tacklers into the picture.

Seriously, I know Clough has been injured but how anybody can talk about dumping him on the heap when prior to last season he was the prominent young forward we had. He's just about to start entering his peak years (he's 24) and unless a horror injury strikes I expect us to be locking him into a three year deal or similar.

Swap deal Roby&Higham

and sell Lomax to Wire.

Throw a roof section in and you've got a deal.

I think it was in the 2008 season he looked prominent and I was optimistically seeing him as a similar player to Andy Platt. Was better under Anderson but looked a bit flat under Potter. This season could be make or break for him. Hope he steps up to alleviate the loss of Jammer.

What clough has lost, is that great leg drive for them extra few yards. He used to pump them legs and make good meters but the clough of late goes down to easy.

2011 stats suggest (even struggling with injuries) he made more metres per carry than LMS, his yardage has never been a problem, he makes excellent ground.

His defence and discipline are very, very good indeed too.

You won't get a better prop for the price, I'm sure of that. He's only 24 too (couple of years younger than LMS?) so has improvement in him.

He's a fine player, will get better and is a local lad. A sure fire keeper.

Fortunately it's not his mind he's lost.

For me, I'd give Clough another contract as we don't know how much Perry will offer us this year, given his injury record last season

Id give Clough another contract because he warrants one.

When we had Bryn as well I always said Clough was the one to keep hold of, he goes under the radar a lot of the time but battles in defence, makes the hard yards and has age on his side too... as Don Brennan said he warrants a contract extension for these attributes alone