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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Do you honestly believe that any self-respecting Saints supporter would give a false opinion on Foster purely because he may be popular with 15 year old girls?'"
Actually I know several of people who have dismissed Foster as a Saints player based primarily on that very thing, as well as his use of social media, his business and his choice of hairstyle/clothing/car.
A large number of people have formed their opinion of him purely based on the above, ignoring things such as his hard work & dedication in training and trying to force his way back into the first team, the spare time he gives up to visit and help out with local kids teams and the fact that he scored 34 tries & 241 goals for a total of 618 points in 54 games for the club. That puts him in some esteemed company at Saints, I believe around 24th on the clubs all time points scorers list one place above Jamie Lyon who scored 46 tries & 213 goals for a total of 610 points in 63 games.
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| I wish Jamie the best, yes as Tony Stark says he had small problems with his off field activites but he gave gis everything, but it seems that was decided last season was not good enough, I really hope he does well.
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| There are plenty of people out there who do not like Jamie for things other than Rugby, just at there are those who will like him for those things.
Nevertheless, I think we can say with certainty that most people have not met Jamie so our opinions of him as a person are very remote whether good or bad, and I would doubt that anyone Sober has ever said to his face, that he was not committed to Saints, because of his outside interests.
Whether someone has a good or bad opinion about him, I really doubt that it has anything to do with appendage sizes. As on the simplest level, that does not account for women who dislike him, or like him, for the very same reasons. I generally find that the size of anything is a bad indicator of someone’s judgement. I think a statistical analysis would show that there is barely any direct or indirect coloration at all. Even Brain size would not be a direct indicator of judgement.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "There are plenty of people out there who do not like Jamie for things other than Rugby, just at there are those who will like him for those things.
Nevertheless, I think we can say with certainty that most people have not met Jamie so our opinions of him as a person are very remote whether good or bad, and I would doubt that anyone Sober has ever said to his face, that he was not committed to Saints, because of his outside interests.
Whether someone has a good or bad opinion about him, I really doubt that it has anything to do with appendage sizes. As on the simplest level, that does not account for women who dislike him, or like him, for the very same reasons. I generally find that the size of anything is a bad indicator of someone’s judgement. I think a statistical analysis would show that there is barely any direct or indirect coloration at all. Even Brain size would not be a direct indicator of judgement.'"
Now now, there's no need to bring race or colour into it...
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| Quote: jaybs "yes as Tony Stark says he had small problems with his off field activites '"
Except Tony Stark didn't actually say that. He said that [iother people[/i had problems with Jamie's off-field activities. Foster had a life, a life which some daft fans would not accept was his right.
With the stats posted by Tony Stark, if Jamie Foster had been almost anyone else, or alternatively ugly with bad hair do, driving a Fiat Punto and working as a bricky, Saints fans of all kinds would have been baying for the blood of the club in letting him go.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Whether someone has a good or bad opinion about him, I really doubt that it has anything to do with appendage sizes. As on the simplest level, that does not account for women who dislike him, or like him, for the very same reasons. I generally find that the size of anything is a bad indicator of someone’s judgement. I think a statistical analysis would show that there is barely any direct or indirect coloration at all. Even Brain size would not be a direct indicator of judgement.'"
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I rather think you are the idiot for getting so steamed up about a daft comment. Makes me laugh.
I'd love to know where you get that 10% from. Thin air I should imagine.
Meanwhile, those who resort to personal insult clearly don't have much between their ears and so I guess I must pity you.
Clearly you can't read either because at no time did I suggest that anyone was giving a 'false opinion' about Foster.'"
You don't have to say it directly, you can imply or insinuate something, which is clearly what you did. You do this alot, make a comment and then when people disagree you become pedantic and point to the fact you didn't say those exact words.
Please don't pity me. I don't want or need it from anyone, least of all you. And at no point have I become steamed up as you put it. It would take far more than somebody like you to get under my skin.
Back on topic, do you actually think about what you're saying before you say it? The reason I say this is because you question where I get the 10% from despite the fact I clealry point out where it comes from. It comes from the amount of people who have spoken to with regards to Foster who believe he deserves to be in the team. What is difficult to follow about that?
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "You don't have to say it directly, you can imply or insinuate something, which is clearly what you did. '"
No. I didn't. You might have inferred something but that is your problem, not mine.
Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "You do this alot, make a comment and then when people disagree you become pedantic and point to the fact you didn't say those exact words.'"
TranslationPlease don't pity me. I don't want or need it from anyone, least of all you. And at no point have I become steamed up as you put it. It would take far more than somebody like you to get under my skin. '"
Evidence says otherwise.
Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Back on topic, do you actually think about what you're saying before you say it? '"
Always. However, I can't account for people like yourself who cannot discern between a daft comment about the size of blokes' willies and a serious point.
Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "The reason I say this is because you question where I get the 10% from despite the fact I clealry point out where it comes from. It comes from the amount of people who have spoken to with regards to Foster who believe he deserves to be in the team. What is difficult to follow about that?'"
Nothing. But it is meaningless.
Incidentally, 95% of the fans I spoke to wanted Foster back playing with the first team during 2011.
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| Quote: Tony Stark "A large number of people have formed their opinion of him purely based on the above, ignoring things such as his hard work & dedication in training and trying to force his way back into the first team, the spare time he gives up to visit and help out with local kids teams and the fact that he scored 34 tries & 241 goals for a total of 618 points in 54 games for the club. That puts him in some esteemed company at Saints, I believe around 24th on the clubs all time points scorers list one place above Jamie Lyon who scored 46 tries & 213 goals for a total of 610 points in 63 games.'"
Please tell me you haven't just compared Jamie Foster to Jamie Lyon? I may have to slap you next time you're at football if you have!
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| From the odd couple of stories I have heard about him, he seems like the complete opposite of the persona that he seems to have generated, which is odd really.
Wish him all the luck in the future.
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| Quote: Albion "From the odd couple of stories I have heard about him, he seems like the complete opposite of the persona that he seems to have generated, which is odd really.
Wish him all the luck in the future.'"
Ditto here.
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| Quote: Albion "From the odd couple of stories I have heard about him, he seems like the complete opposite of the persona that he seems to have generated, which is odd really.
Wish him all the luck in the future.'"
Jamie is a top lad! He can be a little vain but he's great with the kids signing autographs and even having a pass about with them down a brook.
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| Only in terms of the points they accumulated in their Saints careers, not them as players
As a huge JL fan I'd never contemplate such a thing.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "No. I didn't. You might have inferred something but that is your problem, not mine.
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So when you said "Only certain males on here and elsewhere with fragile egos and small willies had a problem with Foster," what did you mean? You say that you weren't implying or insinuating that people's judgements would be clouded because of their own insecurities. So what were you doing? And please don't insult my intelligence by claiming you were joking, we all know you don't possess a sense of humour.
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