No I am not, and what you are suggesting is folly - do you really think we can wait for an empty ground because I'm telling you, when that happens (and it will) the business can NEVER recover from it - end of. This is a commercial and results business, end of, no fog no fudge just black and white and that's it. There's no room for 'let's see how it goes' and someone as shrewd as McManus will be/should be looking at the overall picture and assessing this:

'How much confidence do I have in this guy to deliver'?

In doing that he can't ignore the fact that KC's overall record is woeful - that should be the determinant of whether he stays or goes and he's hardly got a compelling argument to stay has he? Eamonn has backed the guy, he isn't delivering and no amount of 'see how it goes' will change it because he simply isn't coach material. Without being a smart alec I said that the day he was appointed (and I think you did too) - delaying the inevitable will only cause further damage, not make things better Pete. Sometimes you just gotta do it.

We are on a very "tricky wicket" at the moment, can we afford to wait for a turnaround, come Easter we could be staring at 9 losses which was our whole season loss last year before the eights. There is not much confidence that dramatic changes can be made from a stubborn man hell bent on his style of coaching at all cost to player and supporter.
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If we do end up with the worse scenario at Easter we are probably looking at avoiding the middle 8's, this conservative style of play can't go on we've not had our injury crisis yet, once that kicks in we will really start to struggle especially if it effects our back line.
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Personally I would give him the Catalan and Warrington game if he fails then we quickly need a new coach and time to change things around.

FWIW, even as a Wiganer I feel for Cunningham. He was a great player for you and may have become a great coach. He was simply imo given the job at least 5 years early. The majority if not all good coaches have learnt their trade by coaching at youth, reserves and assistant level for a number of years before getting the top job.

It's very rare a young inexperienced player comes into a team and performs consistently straight away, a coach is no different.

I thought Cunningham's comments after the game on sky strange saying he was very pleased with his players, they didn't complete sets the end of sets where poor far too many unforced errors and poor discipline but he was very pleased with the performance if that's the standard he's happy with then you will be in the lower end of the table this year sometimes your poor like we where but you grind a win out but there's poor and poor you are never happy with it

Daryl Powell was not a success at Leeds - hence leaving. Not his fault, as he was thrown in at the deep end in an emergency, and its great to see that after actually learning his trade he's now seemingly a very good coach.

TBH you could blame the club for appointing Cunningham without experience, but how big is his ego in taking it on with no experience? Why is it so hard to accept that he should have gone and coached juniors or even better in the Championship for a few years?

Even if we start playing better when Smith comes back are we happy to be a club that is utterly reliant on one player? Wnot this just lead to clubs targeting Smith constantly?

It can't be easy to turn down your dream job and say I'm not good enough though can it? Has anyone on here ever turned down their dream job and given that as the reason?

Champion of young british half-backs, Garry Schofield slam Super League coaches for dropping Patton & Danny Richardson. www.totalrl.com/schofield-blasts ... halfbacks/

Champion of young british half-backs, Garry Schofield slam Super League coaches for dropping Patton & Danny Richardson. www.totalrl.com/schofield-blasts ... halfbacks/

It's a shame that coaches don't see the championship as a good training ground. Are there any ex top players coaching in the lower leagues now? The only Ines I can think of who moved up from a lower league to super league where Powell from Fev to Cas and millward when he joined us from Leigh. I would prefer to see KC do a couple of years down there and then go for a top job.

https://twitter.com/RLonRY/status/841445338514878465

https://twitter.com/RLonRY/status/841445338514878465

Tommy Lee what a dreadful signing

Definition of a journey man. Never really kicked on from his time at Hull (he left in 200icon_cool.gif.

Perhaps he's a late developer


I remember when he got into the Hull side he was hailed as a great prospect but a one how he never kicked on.

You never know he may surprise us on the plus side he can't be costing us much and he may tide us over until Cunningham jnr reaches potential.