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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "He's been training there as Makinson and Swift haven't been fully fit. Percival will be our 1st choice centre, without a doubt, as long as we have 2 fit wingers for the start of the season.'"
Why wouldn't you want to play and train with the best centre at the Club playing in the centre? Why not use Dawson and Bailey/wellington/Grace on the wing and training ?
Percy should be centre no matter what. I just can't believe KC hasn't been puting percy there as that's how players gel and learn new plays in pre season training and practice games, yet we have our best centre getting cold on the wing.
Tbh I'm gobsmacked
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| Quote: St pete "Why wouldn't you want to play and train with the best centre at the Club playing in the centre? Why not use Dawson and Bailey/wellington/Grace on the wing and training ?
Percy should be centre no matter what. I just can't believe KC hasn't been puting percy there as that's how players gel and learn new plays in pre season training and practice games, yet we have our best centre getting cold on the wing.
Tbh I'm gobsmacked'"
I agree with you in that I think he should have kept Percy at centre and played Wellington on the wing for example.
However there's no danger that this is some sort of long term plan to change his position.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I agree with you in that I think he should have kept Percy at centre and played Wellington on the wing for example.
However there's no danger that this is some sort of long term plan to change his position.'"
But it's this sort of crazy stuff that worries me. He messed players around last year and didn't work. Percy is a out and out centre.
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| Quote: St pete "But it's this sort of crazy stuff that worries me. He messed players around last year and didn't work. Percy is a out and out centre.'"
He is. But it's not a normal position to be in to have both of our first choice wingers missing during pre-season. I wouldn't worry mate.
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| Speaking of wingers, it looked to me like Makinson has bulked up quite a bit. If so, it'll be interesting to see if it adds anything to his game.
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| Quote: Dux "Speaking of wingers, it looked to me like Makinson has bulked up quite a bit. If so, it'll be interesting to see if it adds anything to his game.'"
He looked big when he came back from injury last year I thought.
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| Last season we went out in the dying seconds of a game I thought we deserved equally to win against the eventual champions.
I see no reason why we can't do better this season. Of course a lot depends on the fitness of players. Fingers crossed.
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| I don't read into these friendlies too much, with so many subs and position changes we are not going to hit the heights of team cohesion. We might be undercooked a bit with our 1st 17 but its a long hard season in front of us.
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| just referencing someone earlier in the thread about the size of the Hull FC pack, yesterday it was outstanding. Watts, Houghton, Taylor, Minichiello, Manu, Thompson. Pritchard on the bench and Ellis still injured.
Very dominant performance, but still, only a friendly.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "just referencing someone earlier in the thread about the size of the Hull FC pack, yesterday it was outstanding. Watts, Houghton, Taylor, Minichiello, Manu, Thompson. Pritchard on the bench and Ellis still injured.
Very dominant performance, but still, only a friendly.'"
I think hull will be very tough this year. They have good huge pack and if they can keep thst pack fit, they will have good go foward and hard to stop. I think they lack a good coach imo
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| You could do worse than play Turner and Dawson on the wing
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| Quote: St pete "I think hull will be very tough this year. They have good huge pack and if they can keep thst pack fit, they will have good go foward and hard to stop. I think they lack a good coach imo'"
Big pack but also very mobile
Very young set of pacey backs for first match,average age 22.
Think Hull will come in under the radar even with Radford as the coach
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| Dont underrate Lee Radford, he's built the club up in all areas in his last 2 years. Only now are we beginning to see his side come together. He always comes across very well for me. Players love his honesty, no favourites, says it how it is. He was a rooky 2 years ago, I think he's about to lose that tag.
As with Cunningham its never easy and quite rare for a rooky coach to hit the ground running. But he did well for you in the final analysis and this year he can only get better.
Over on our forum there are still a number who wanted a proven coach, rather than a Super League rooky and they're still finding it hard to accept Lee. But the majority are with him now i believe, the team is definitely with him and we've all got our fingers crossed there at last will be some good times returning.
If we can compete consistently throughout each game for once, well be in the shake up this year.
I don't think Frank the Tank will be letting anyone clock off early.
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| Quote: Uppo58 "Dont underrate Lee Radford, he's built the club up in all areas in his last 2 years. Only now are we beginning to see his side come together. He always comes across very well for me. Players love his honesty, no favourites, says it how it is. He was a rooky 2 years ago, I think he's about to lose that tag.
As with Cunningham its never easy and quite rare for a rooky coach to hit the ground running. But he did well for you in the final analysis and this year he can only get better.
Over on our forum there are still a number who wanted a proven coach, rather than a Super League rooky and they're still finding it hard to accept Lee. But the majority are with him now i believe, the team is definitely with him and we've all got our fingers crossed there at last will be some good times returning.
If we can compete consistently throughout each game for once, well be in the shake up this year.
I don't think Frank the Tank will be letting anyone clock off early.'"
I like Radford and I like his honesty but I question if he is smart enough .
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| Quote: St pete "I like Radford and I like his honesty but I question if he is smart enough .'"
There's still a big question mark over Radford, but he does appear to learn and to change things if they're not right.
2015 was a weird year for us. We had a pretty decent defence, bar a couple of halves of rugby where we went to sleep. With the ball we were pretty good too;
- 2nd for Tackle Busts (Leeds 1st)
- 2nd for Meters (Leeds 1st)
- 3rd for Average Gain (Wolves 1st, Saints 2nd)
- 3rd for Clean Breaks (Leeds 1st, Wigan 2nd)
- 4th for Offloads (Leeds 1st, Catalans 2nd, Wigan 3rd)
The problem for us last year wasn't getting into the oppositions 20, it was converting that pressure into tries. We're going into 2016 with a settled (and fit) halfback partnership for the first time in years, Houghton is at the top of his game, Shaul at fullback instead of Rankin which should play to Shaul's supporting game running off Pritchard etc, and two centres in Logan & Tuimavave with skill and guile (instead of Yeaman and Sa who had none of that).
Hopefully, that'll bode well for a decent season. We're just hoping for some decent rugby and to be in the mix for a top four spot up until the final rounds.
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