I think the younger players have that fight about them. They are not old pro's who are happy to sit and take a wage, regardless of the outcome.

I'd give Percival a extended run at centre now. Obviously if its not going well for him he needs protecting but I think this kid is as good or not even better than any centre at the club.

Walmsley, greenwood, walker, swift and Percival are the best bunch of young lads we've produced in a long time. I'm not one to get carried away with young lads as most know on here but I think this bunch has potential. Not saying they will make it but I think they got a good chance.

Indeed.

After his first game, Walker looked bang average (think it was vs Leeds?) but ever since in the Warrington and Wigan games he's looked very handy and his stats are impressive.

Greenwood looks a great prospect considering how well he's going now and the potential he has considering his frame.

Percival looks a real threat and should be our starting centre with Turner on the other side (who has also impressed me). Gives us pace and some real threat if we can find a HB who can exploit that.

Swift/Makinson haven't really impressed me as I would have liked. Especially Makinson who has been a bit disappointing for me considering how well he did when he broke through. Swift looks ok, but hasn't done much so far.

Walmsley/Lomax have been discussed to death and look very very good.

Someone you have missed out is Jones. Think he's done really well again considering he is now playing in the back-row. I was sceptical of that position for him, but he's done well there I think. If he can improve he could be great there. Centre isn't his position as he just doesn't have the pace IMO.

I was impressed with Makinson yesterday. Really made a difference for us.

I really like Walker too, maybe over shadowed by Walmsley, but his tackling looked fantastic. To be honest we are never going to produce 10 - 20 world beaters. But we always had a crop of decent players who could rotate in and out of the squad.

Jonkers, Bennett etc....

You need these to compliment the star turns, it's just the star turns are not very sparkly at the moment.

I don't class the likes of lomax, makinson, wheeler as the young lads anymore. They are pretty experienced now.

Makinson and Lomax are younger than Wheeler. Lomax has more experience than Makinson and may be older than him?

Ill explain just for you.

The likes of lomax, makinson, wheeler etc and now in the 3rd season and have player play off rugby, challenge cup semis and grand finals. I'd day they are pretty experienced as young lads now and no longer new comers to first grade rugby league.

The likes of swift, walker, greenwood, Percival ext are still new to first grade and not put a full season in the super league as yet.

What's your point?

She's just looking for another heated debate. She jumped on me yesterday because I said lomax is a better player than makinson. She deemed that as me "putting makinson down"

Was not trying to kick off another Lomax , Makinson debate. Just thought he had a good game.

I wasn't meaning you.

Walker's yet to convince me going forward, but his tackling stats have been very good. If Jones gets an extended run at second row, then I think he'll develop into a very good player too.

I thought Makinson had a decent game on Saturday; not before time mind. Looking at his performances this term his development appears to be in reverse. I fear he is another from the ranks who has flattered to deceive.

Tin hat time .....