You keep trying to compare browns record with that of saints which is impossible. Hudds and saints are totally different teams, different players, different strengths, different styles etc

He's done a terrific job at the giants and I've yet to hear a giants player or fan have a bad word about him.

My only concern is the whole saga of is he going or is he staying every year. Let's hope McManus has told him its just not happening.

If all teams were defensively sound around the ruck we'd see the ball spread much more IMO. The fact that against most teams the likes of Roby jumping out of dummyhalf is enough to break them down, doesn't exactly encourage Saints to spread it. However were Roby too find it unfruitful running from dummyhalf Saints would have to change tack and for the better IMO.

He's got a team that was constantly below the middle of the table to a genuine top 4 team. Imagine what he can do with a team that constantly gets into GF and a strong cup run? With the resources availiable at Saints for him we could return to the top again

Forget what has gone before. In the seasons we got to the Grand Finals we had players like James Graham, Leon Pryce, Keiron Cunningham, Sean Long, Jamie Lyon etc. We don't have those anymore. We are not in a false position in the league.

we only had one of them last year

Indeed. So it is difficult to judge accurately whether he will be any good at Saints. But the fact that they get all the way to a semi in the playoffs but bottle it, or capitulate completely like they did last season (going backwards in fact), concerns me.

But man what a difference his presence made.

indeed, but still just one man

Correct, we can only judge him on what he's done at the giants. He's took a team that was finishing in the bottom four to a team that is a top four team, Ade a Wembley final and are genuine title contenders.

He will do for me

I'm not criticising the appointment, I'm suggesting he's crazy for leaving Huddersfield for us right now. Turning this ship around will be harder than the job he had at Huddersfield. There he inherited no real stars and could recruit. At Saints there is much less room to bring players in due to the quota, cap and existing contracts. Big, big job and talk of winning championships with this squad is far fetched IMO.

I don't think he regrets it at all.

We've a better squad, better youth coming thru, bigger club and I bet he's getting well paid.

We are not far off having a team good enough to win cups again. IMO we are three players short of being the dominant force again.

So you have already pinned your colours to the mast eh Pete? I'm sure I was criticised recently for doing the same thing ...

I'm remaining skeptical if that's ok. I will wait and see, give him the first season, same as previous coaches!

I've not pinned my colours to any mast but I do like brown and it looks a good appointment but as with any coach, we will have to see.

Those three players would need to be Billy Slater, Jonathon Thurston and Paul Gallen to be honest.

A good experinced quality halfback, good attacking centre and a tackle breaking forward and I think we will be up there again.