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| Quote: SaintsFan "
I honestly think that.
What have a I changed my mind over with Jamie?
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| Quote: St pete "If Royce was such a good coach why couldn't he give the senior players a kick up the backside?'"
As Tim Sheens said, he speaks the language of the players, which is why he is well respected at Wests Tigers and why they want him back. That would have also made him sympathetic towards the players which is probably what led to his downfall.
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| Quote: St pete "I honestly think that.
What have a I changed my mind over with Jamie?'"
You thought he should be dropped, just as we all did (some for his own good, some because they thought he was rubbish). You now slate Royce for dropping him for one game. So you have changed your mind about Foster.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "As Tim Sheens said, he speaks the language of the players, which is why he is well respected at Wests Tigers and why they want him back. That would have also made him sympathetic towards the players which is probably what led to his downfall.'"
Royce - " we didn't know what we was doing out there and I didn't know what we was doing and I'm the coach"
If that's the players language then I'm glad he's gone.
West tigers fans had a party when he left, read their forum comments on him.
Changed my mind on Jamie?
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| Quote: SaintsFan "As Tim Sheens said, he speaks the language of the players, which is why he is well respected at Wests Tigers and why they want him back. That would have also made him sympathetic towards the players which is probably what led to his downfall.'"
Which makes him perfect assistant, rather than head, coach material. Alas he wasn't our assistant coach.
Let's see if Wests give him the head coaching job seeing as they are so desperate to have him back...
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| Quote: St pete "Royce - " we didn't know what we was doing out there and I didn't know what we was doing and I'm the coach"'"
TranslationChanged my mind on Jamie?'"
I've replied to you on that already.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You thought he should be dropped, just as we all did (some for his own good, some because they thought he was rubbish). You now slate Royce for dropping him for one game. So you have changed your mind about Foster.'"
I posted on here before anyone else that IMO Jamie needed taking out the first team (not dropped) to build his confidence and maybe bring him down a peg or two as I got the feeling he thought he was better than he was.
I've never ever said rest backs, resting wingers and centres week in and week out like Royce knocked any sort of partnership you firm as a centre/winger partnership.
I think Jamie will come back better than he's ever been. I know for a fact he's chomping at the bit and when he gets back in, he intends to stay in because KC will not drop him if he's playing well unlike the idiot.
Just swallow your pride and admit Simmons was gash. We was boring, unorganised, clueless and lacked heart under him. The fact he was in charge for our worst ever run says it all.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Which makes him perfect assistant, rather than head, coach material. Alas he wasn't our assistant coach.'"
That's fine. I have no problem with that. I hope he goes back there and continues the good work he was doing there.
He still got us to the Grand Final last season and he gave debuts to some very promising young players AND he did it all through a very turbulant time. So he was a decent head coach as well.
But lest I forget, he sinned against the Mighty Saints for we played BORING RUGBY!!! (We didn't, actually, at least not all the time, but hey, some fans think Daniel Anderson made us play boring rugby)
Worse than that ... WE LOST FOUR MATCHES and they were ON THE BOUNCE! Hellfire and damnation. Sacrilege. The unforgivable sin.
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| Quote: St pete "I posted on here before anyone else that IMO Jamie needed taking out the first team (not dropped) to build his confidence and maybe bring him down a peg or two as I got the feeling he thought he was better than he was. '"
There you go. And now you slate Royce for doing the same thing.
The rest of what you said was your usual blather and I'm not interested in responding to it anymore.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That's fine. I have no problem with that. I hope he goes back there and continues the good work he was doing there.
He still got us to the Grand Final last season and he gave debuts to some very promising young players AND he did it all through a very turbulant time. So he was a decent head coach as well.
But lest I forget, he sinned against the Mighty Saints for we played BORING RUGBY!!! (We didn't, actually, at least not all the time, but hey, some fans think Daniel Anderson made us play boring rugby)
Worse than that ... WE LOST FOUR MATCHES and they were ON THE BOUNCE! Hellfire and damnation. Sacrilege. The unforgivable sin.'"
It's the way we lost them and who we lost them to.
We was so disorganised is was funny! Totally clueless. Even the players didn't want him.
By the way, wasn't it you bagging potter for boring rugby?
We was suppose to be making Langtree park a fortress yet we've seen fans boo us off.
Bye bye royce, don't ever come back (unless it's as Wigan head coach)
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| Quote: St pete "It's the way we lost them and who we lost them to.'"
Hull, you mean? They're now second in the table. Last season we lost to Quins and the team were booed off then as well. They were booed off against Hull while Potter was in charge too. Saints fans boo when they aren't happy with their team.
Last season we turned it around the very next game. Guess who we played? Ah yes. Leeds. Funny that.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Hull, you mean? They're now second in the table. Last season we lost to Quins and the team were booed off then as well. They were booed off against Hull while Potter was in charge too. Saints fans boo when they aren't happy with their team.
Last season we turned it around the very next game. Guess who we played? Ah yes. Leeds. Funny that.'"
Hull won't make the top four, they'll be lucky to make the top six.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Hull, you mean? They're now second in the table. Last season we lost to Quins and the team were booed off then as well. They were booed off against Hull while Potter was in charge too. Saints fans boo when they aren't happy with their team.
Last season we turned it around the very next game. Guess who we played? Ah yes. Leeds. Funny that.'"
He got the sack because he was gash
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| Quote: St pete "He got the sack because he was gash'"
You think? Was Purtill gash too?
Are you really that daft?
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That's fine. I have no problem with that.'"
The problem is that it appears to people reading your posts that you do.
Quote: SaintsFan "I hope he goes back there and continues the good work he was doing there.'"
I think most would be quite happy for him to carry on having a successful career.
Quote: SaintsFan "He still got us to the Grand Final last season and he gave debuts to some very promising young players AND he did it all through a very turbulant time.'"
Hmmm, but so did Potter. He achieved no more than Potter ever did, Potter had to introduce a lot of the players that Simmons picked, the only players that hadn't been brought into the first team under Potter were Makinson and Ashe IIRC.
Quote: SaintsFan "So he was a decent head coach as well.'"
Yet you have posted numerous diatribes about the very similar (in style and results) Potter...
Quote: SaintsFan "But lest I forget, he sinned against the Mighty Saints for we played BORING RUGBY!!! (We didn't, actually, at least not all the time, but hey, some fans think Daniel Anderson made us play boring rugby)'"
We've been playing boring rugby since Millward left. We just had better players with more experience under Anderson.
Quote: SaintsFan "Worse than that ... WE LOST FOUR MATCHES and they were ON THE BOUNCE! Hellfire and damnation. Sacrilege. The unforgivable sin.'"
It's the manner of the defeats that have been worrying, however I did think it only needed tinkering with when we were losing, it's just that Simmons didn't tinker in the right places.
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