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I'd like to see
1 Pryce (in attack)
2 Gardner
3 Gids
4 Soliola
5 Meli
6 Wheels
7 Eastmond
8 Fozzard
9 KC
10 Graham
11 Wilkin
12 Flanno
13 Wellens (full back in defence)
14 TP
15 Roby
16 Fas
17 Clough
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| Quote: Supersaint "I'd like to see
1 Pryce (in attack)
2 Gardner
3 Gids
4 Soliola
5 Meli
6 Wheels
7 Eastmond
8 Fozzard
9 KC
10 Graham
11 Wilkin
12 Flanno
13 Wellens (full back in defence)
14 TP
15 Roby
16 Fas
17 Clough'"
I like this, but it'll never happen  |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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I think potter will stick with his tried and tested.
I think Potters 17 will be....
Wello
Gardner
gidley
soliola
meli
pryce
eastmond
fozz
KC
graham
tony p
flannery
wilkin
roby/Moore
maurie
clough
bryn
If he does pick this 17 I think we will be in same boat as last year.
No attack!
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Wellens
Gardner
Gidley
Soliola
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Fozzard
Cunningham
Graham
Flannery
Wilkin
Roby
Moore
Clough
Puletua
Fa'asavalu
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Mugwump "It's not Pryce's fault that he couldn't work miracles last season at six. Every team in the league knows to target him in defence because he is so influential (and dangerous). What we need is to do is take the pressure off Pryce. Another attacking axis would put a huge amount of uncertainty in the opposition and free up Pryce to do what he does best. No point shifting him to centre where he has rarely played and wouldn't be happy about.'"
Just like Roby, Pryce has suffered from the slower PTB this season. He is a player who comes to life when there is broken play or a QPTB and he can look world class. As an actual half-back he can look very average at times. I personally would rather see him at FB, centre or loose. |
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Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river.
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Pryce
Gardner
Gidley
Meli
Lomax
Wheeler
Eastmond
Fozzard
Moore
Carvell
Puletua
Soliola
Wellens
Cunningham
Wilkin
Flannery
Clough
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| Quote: Mugwump "It's not Pryce's fault that he couldn't work miracles last season at six. Every team in the league knows to target him in defence because he is so influential (and dangerous). '"
i love your sarcasm  |
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: Gerry Mander "Pryce
Gardner
Gidley
Meli
Lomax
Wheeler
Eastmond
Fozzard
Moore
Carvell
Puletua
Soliola
Wellens
Cunningham
Wilkin
Flannery
Clough'"
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Your scrum half is your organiser (if you play 1st and 2nd receiver like we do). Kyle has been a scrum half through the ranks, I can't beleive he hasn't had to do that role in the other teams he's played for, so I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be able to do it when surrounded by all the experience that our first team has. He's certainly not scared of souting the odds and instructions.
I'm also baffled by peoples insistance that he's definatley not an organising player and won't be a scrum half. I'm sure that people just decide that because he's got pace, he can't have an organisational game aswell.'"
I agree with you.
I think Longy's presence may have been holding Kyle back to some degree although I'm sure Longy will have been unable to resist giving him hints and stuff while he was here. But with Longy gone, Kyle may be able to stamp his presence on the team and be more confident in terms of organising the lads around the park, which is the aspect of his game we haven't seen at first grade yet in spite of the fact that he must have done it in the academy, as you suggest. |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I agree with you.
I think Longy's presence may have been holding Kyle back to some degree although I'm sure Longy will have been unable to resist giving him hints and stuff while he was here. But with Longy gone, Kyle may be able to stamp his presence on the team and be more confident in terms of organising the lads around the park, which is the aspect of his game we haven't seen at first grade yet in spite of the fact that he must have done it in the academy, as you suggest.'"
Just a word of caution.
We thought the same thing would happen when Luke Robinson replaced Lam.
Luke was much better all round scrum half than either Eastmond or Tomkins, but when push came to shove he couldn't handle it.
I'm not saying Kyle or Sam will fall away in a similar fashion but it is a possibility. |
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Anyone pciking TP at prop obviously didnt watch any matches last season
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| Quote: C-Stander "Anyone pciking TP at prop obviously didnt watch any matches last season'"
What? He was pretty good last season? Sure he didn't do the damage he did running wider and less often in the second row, but when asked he rolled his sleeves up and did the hard work very well IMO. |
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| Quote: C-Stander "Anyone pciking TP at prop obviously didnt watch any matches last season'"
well yes and no. He is much better in second row imo, but at prop was still our no2 prop last year |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Just a word of caution.
We thought the same thing would happen when Luke Robinson replaced Lam.
Luke was much better all round scrum half than either Eastmond or Tomkins, but when push came to shove he couldn't handle it.
I'm not saying Kyle or Sam will fall away in a similar fashion but it is a possibility.'" True, but Eastmond does seem to have the kahoonahs to step up. His play has a confidence and swagger about it.
I was concerned when he first came through that he just wasn't tough enough, he seemed to limp off injured a lot but always be fit for the week after. Although that sort of thing seems to have gone, we haven't had the luxury of seeing him in many fight scraps of games (although the home game against wigan, were he scored the winner wasn't far off). |
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Wellens - still reliable
lomax - faster than Gardner, needs more game time
gidley - still class
pryce - more pace in the centres
meli - let's just hope he learns not to be a clown every now and again
wheeler - no point in him sitting on the sidelines for another year, he needs games!
Eastmond - obviously
graham - same
Cunningham - still the master
fozzard
soliola - def will be better in second row
wilkin - needs a big season
roby - good enough to play loose
puletua
fa'asavalu
Moore
clough
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