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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Not playing at fullback.'"
I thought you had super-duper wonderkid Matty Russell? Whats happened to him?
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| Quote: Ande "I thought you had super-duper wonderkid Matty Russell? Whats happened to him?'"
Gone to play in Australia.
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| Will the last one out at Wigoon turn out the lights please.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Will the last one out at Wigoon turn out the lights please.'"
They must have got a discounted price if they block booked on their flights. Rumour has it that Mossop is off too?
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| There isn't a rumour Mossop is off to Australia, it's a well known fact.
What has to be decided yet is when.
Also whether it will be a temp loan deal for 2 years and then he'll return to complete his 5 year contract or alternatively, stay out there.
J Tomkins went for £240k payable over 2 years.
If Hock goes Wigan should get around the £175-200k mark, probably again over 2 years.
When Sam Tomkins departs heaven knows how much Wigan will get. If the club get over £500k for him that will be £1m for the 3 players. Whether this is good business or not will be the quality of replacements and their costs.
As you know Wigan have bought Smith, Green and Taylor for the money they got for Joel with a small amount of change left.
Imagine what you guys could have got for James Graham if he'd gone whilst under contract. He didn't stay to help you win trophies so maybe you should have got rid when he had 2 or 3 years left on his contract and then demanded a massive fee.
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| Quote: Father Ted "
J Tomkins went for £240k payable over 2 years.
If Hock goes Wigan should get around the £175-200k mark, probably again over 2 years.
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For a 29 year old not long back from a two year drugs ban? No chance, unless the Paramatta chairman has gone insane.
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| bloody hell, how many are Wigan getting rid of?? they'll be selling the stadium next!
...oh wait...
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| Quote: JonB95 "bloody hell, how many are Wigan getting rid of?? they'll be selling the stadium next!
...oh wait...'"
Love it!
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| Quote: Father Ted "There isn't a rumour Mossop is off to Australia, it's a well known fact.
What has to be decided yet is when.
Also whether it will be a temp loan deal for 2 years and then he'll return to complete his 5 year contract or alternatively, stay out there.
J Tomkins went for £240k payable over 2 years.
If Hock goes Wigan should get around the £175-200k mark, probably again over 2 years.
When Sam Tomkins departs heaven knows how much Wigan will get. If the club get over £500k for him that will be £1m for the 3 players. Whether this is good business or not will be the quality of replacements and their costs.
As you know Wigan have bought Smith, Green and Taylor for the money they got for Joel with a small amount of change left.
Imagine what you guys could have got for James Graham if he'd gone whilst under contract. He didn't stay to help you win trophies so maybe you should have got rid when he had 2 or 3 years left on his contract and then demanded a massive fee.'"
What's the point in getting big fees for selling all your best players when there's noone available of vaguely the same quality you can sign to replace them? At least we have our own shiny new stadium generating us lots of nice income meaning we don't have to sell our best players to make ends meet
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "What's the point in getting big fees for selling all your best players when there's noone available of vaguely the same quality you can sign to replace them? At least we have our own shiny new stadium generating us lots of nice income meaning we don't have to sell our best players to make ends meet
We'll see.
Which club has made the bigger losses over the last ten years?
What have those players in that shiny new stadium won.
It's better to get a fee for those players than let the likes of Graham and Eastmond go for nothing.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "We'll see.
Which club has made the bigger losses over the last ten years?
What have those players in that shiny new stadium won.
It's better to get a fee for those players than let the likes of Graham and Eastmond go for nothing.'"
Of course it is. Wigan will still be relatively successful because of their youth system, but it's clear the club is doing something wrong as it never keeps any of it's stars, they all go.
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| Quote: Father Ted "There isn't a rumour Mossop is off to Australia, it's a well known fact.
What has to be decided yet is when.
Also whether it will be a temp loan deal for 2 years and then he'll return to complete his 5 year contract or alternatively, stay out there.
J Tomkins went for £240k payable over 2 years.
If Hock goes Wigan should get around the £175-200k mark, probably again over 2 years.
When Sam Tomkins departs heaven knows how much Wigan will get. If the club get over £500k for him that will be £1m for the 3 players. Whether this is good business or not will be the quality of replacements and their costs.
As you know Wigan have bought Smith, Green and Taylor for the money they got for Joel with a small amount of change left.
Imagine what you guys could have got for James Graham if he'd gone whilst under contract. He didn't stay to help you win trophies so maybe you should have got rid when he had 2 or 3 years left on his contract and then demanded a massive fee.'"
You will not be getting anywhere near the amount you suggest for Hock. Believe me!
If Hock or mossop do decide to go ( or both) then I honestly think wigans two year revival will be over. They have lost to many good players and replaced with IMO mediocre players.
Lulu, finch and carmont are massive massive losses and Green, Hughes and Smith ain't in the same league as them. If you then add mossop or Hock to them, I think it's to many good players gone with a lack of quality to replace them.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "We'll see.
Which club has made the bigger losses over the last ten years?
What have those players in that shiny new stadium won.
It's better to get a fee for those players than let the likes of Graham and Eastmond go for nothing.'"
is it? at least we are trying to keep them, your chairman seems to value cashing in and profits over keeping his best players.
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| Who will Wigan get to replace Hock?
shoot me down in flames if you wish, but in my opinion when he concentrates on rugby rather than looking tough, he's the most dangerous back rower in the league (can't think of many that would match him in the NRL either). he even ran over the top of Sia for goodness sake. This will be a huge boost for us - i think he made the difference against us this year. combine that with the departure of the two halves. Wigan's form only picked up again when those two returned from their respective injuries.
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| Quote: St pete "You will not be getting anywhere near the amount you suggest for Hock. Believe me!
If Hock or mossop do decide to go ( or both) then I honestly think wigans two year revival will be over. They have lost to many good players and replaced with IMO mediocre players.
Lulu, finch and carmont are massive massive losses and Green, Hughes and Smith ain't in the same league as them. If you then add mossop or Hock to them, I think it's to many good players gone with a lack of quality to replace them.'"
This is on top of last years recruitment which saw the likes of Hoffman leaving, with the goons bringing in a bag full of no hopers. Gelling??? The trogs? That bloke from Hull that is a poor mans Barry Ward? They were lucky this season to survive with the poor recruitment, and some Goons were even claiming the likes of Gelling was a top signing. But they were found out in the important games, and next year will be significantly weaker again. The Goons are going backwards at an incredible rate, once the wheels fall off, they will be back to booing curly and co, and chaniting how they arent fit to wear the shirt. Can't wait
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