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| good on his day, just doesnt have enough of them,
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| Really surprised at Saints for this. Very average player, barely makes it into our injury ridden side. Showed some moments of classy play, defensively pretty awful all of the time.
Manu - good piece of business by Saints
Turner - good piece of business by Hull imo.
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| cant we have manu back...................please
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| Quote: Bal "Really surprised at Saints for this. Very average player, barely makes it into our injury ridden side. Showed some moments of classy play, defensively pretty awful all of the time.
Manu - good piece of business by Saints
Turner - good piece of business by Hull imo.'"
Got to agree with that. Hull wanted to keep Turner but only at a bargain bin price. Manu we wanted to keep full stop.
With Arundel coming in and Crooks looking like a future star I don't think Turner is a great loss. With Manu the only consolation is that we got Ellis.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Out of the English centres in Super League, I'll think you'll find it hard to suggest Turner isn't one of the best. It's not a very long list.'"
I actually found it pretty easy.
Atkins, Watkins, Goulding, Bridge, Yeaman, Welham, Shenton, Cudjoe, Hardaker, Ratchford (not specialist position), Ablett (not specialist position) are all English and play centre to a higher standard than Turner does.
You then have young players like J. Jones, Crooks, and Sarginson who have looked good this season but haven't been around long enough to be definitively classed above him.
Arundel is a centre in the Knights squad but he's been out for so long with injury that I would have to see how he returns before listing him.
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| Quote: Panda92 "I actually found it pretty easy.
Atkins, Watkins, Goulding, Bridge, Yeaman, Welham, Shenton, Cudjoe, Hardaker, Ratchford (not specialist position), Ablett (not specialist position) are all English and play centre to a higher standard than Turner does.
You then have young players like J. Jones, Crooks, and Sarginson who have looked good this season but haven't been around long enough to be definitively classed above him.
Arundel is a centre in the Knights squad but he's been out for so long with injury that I would have to see how he returns before listing him.'"
Goulding
But anyway, how many of those England centres are off contract? Roughly none?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Goulding
Goulding is better than Turner, though. I know you're a Saints fan so it's difficult to praise anything about Wigan, but you have to accept that.
You never mentioned that they had to be off-contract in the list. You only said that it would be difficult to list many English centres that are better than Turner. You seem to be clutching at straws a bit now.
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| Quote: Panda92 "You never mentioned that they had to be off-contract in the list. You only said that it would be difficult to list many English centres that are better than Turner. You seem to be clutching at straws a bit now.'" To be fair, in his post regarding and Aus club signing a british centre
Quote: Panda92 "Young? - Tick
Off contract? - Tick
Centre? - Tick
One of England's best? - I would argue again, tick.
There really aren't many decent English outside backs off contract at the moment.'"
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "To be fair, in his post regarding and Aus club signing a british centre
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My list was based upon this post, where he mentioned a list but didn't mention that it had to be OOC players.
Quote: Offside Monkey "Not when you look at the post in context. We were discussing an NRL club being in talks with an English centre. Out of the English centres in Super League, I'll think you'll find it hard to suggest Turner isn't one of the best. It's not a very long list.'"
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| Quote: Panda92 "My list was based upon this post, where he mentioned a list but didn't mention that it had to be OOC players.
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Are you a politician in your free time or a journalist?
You know what I meant, just as Offside Monkey pointed out. It's a mute point anyway as our opinions of him are very similar.
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| Quote: Rommel "Jordan will come on fine at a bigger club with better players around him thanks
Good luck with that.
Would you be saying that if it was Radford?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Goulding
What is there to laugh at? Easily in the top 3 English centres at the moment. You don't wanna believe me? No probs, just keep kidding yourself.
Turner, doesn't seem like a great signing, but might turn out to be better than expected, like us with Lauaki, sort of.
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| Quote: JWarriors "What is there to laugh at? Easily in the top 3 English centres at the moment. You don't wanna believe me? No probs, just keep kidding yourself.
Turner, doesn't seem like a great signing, but might turn out to be better than expected, like us with Lauaki, sort of.'"
Now there IS an eye opener.
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| Quote: Panda92 "He's played there for atleast 4 years.'"
Didn't Turner play in the back row for Salford?
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| Happy I with the signing. He certainly has is faults and has a lot to work on, but he undoubtedly has raw athleticism which we are lacking. He's a typical Brown signing with pace and power and if he can bring him on as he has with Huddersfield's outside backs he cold go well.
He'll offer very similar to what Shenton has but for far less money on the cap. If he's not performing well enough we have other players who can fill in at centre whilst he develops. That's how I see it anyway, by no means a classy player as of yet, but potential to develop.
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