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Quote: Don Brennan "Christ dont buy into his little dreamword where he actually has inside info.
He's just a p1ss poor troll.'"


He is probably right. It is hardly unusual for certain players to build a rapport with a coach, the coach leaves and they don't have have the same relationship. Just as ones who didn't get on as well with the previous coach, now do.

Unfortunately for Rogues, his attempts at sensationalism are rather poor.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "He is probably right. It is hardly unusual for certain players to build a rapport with a coach, the coach leaves and they don't have have the same relationship. Just as ones who didn't get on as well with the previous coach, now do.

Unfortunately for Rogues, his attempts at sensationalism are rather poor.'"


Wouldnt disagree,it's the fact he likes us all to think he's some sort of insider that makes my @rse wink.

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The guy's doing a great job. No major issues. A couple of minor ones. Top of the league.

I mean, what more can you ask for?

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Quote: Don Brennan "Wouldnt disagree,it's the fact he likes us all to think he's some sort of insider that makes my @rse wink.'"


Nutella does it for me.

He's your archetypal; I have the knowledge, but am never specific so it is nothing more than pure speculation type.

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Can't knock him so far. As has been pointed out, we're top of the league and in the last four of the cup, and have seen the emergence of a handful of exciting young players. We've also managed all of this one prop light. Pretty impressive I'd say.

We have been shocking in one or two games where our handling and discipline have let us down, but this was not unheard of under Anderson, and most certainly not under Millward.

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No moans so far, kept the winning mentality going. Still first in teh league, scored more than anyone, conceeded less than anyone ( I think, might be wrong never checked for a while ), in teh CC semi final, created a world record away game winning streak. Hit the 50 a few times without being spectacular and WOW.

I think its all goign well so far, the guy has entered our club at a time were the household big gun names are starting to fall apart and move on. Not the easiest of times to take control of the club, some fols would say "transition"...

7 out of 10 for me so far, been bored a bit to much for my likeing.

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Quote: Saint Simon "completely agree.
My only concern is if kyle does what matty smith did a couple of years ago and has a great run of game doing a good job and then is dropped for the playoffs because Long is back, that was very unfair IMO, but a tough decision either way.'"


Matty smith should never have been dropped that year. We was on something like 11 match unbeaten run then long walked straight back in the team.

Long always does get straight back in team and will again no matter how well eastmond does.

It would be great to see longy back in saints kit before he leaves but I'd rather Kyle turn it on and keep longy out.

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Quote: St pete "Matty smith should never have been dropped that year. We was on something like 11 match unbeaten run then long walked straight back in the team.

Long always does get straight back in team and will again no matter how well eastmond does.

It would be great to see longy back in saints kit before he leaves but I'd rather Kyle turn it on and keep longy out.'"

agreed

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Quote: St pete "Matty smith should never have been dropped that year. We was on something like 11 match unbeaten run then long walked straight back in the team.

Long always does get straight back in team and will again no matter how well eastmond does.

It would be great to see longy back in saints kit before he leaves but I'd rather Kyle turn it on and keep longy out.'"


Didn't the same thing happen years ago with Briers and Goulding, which ultimately led to Briers going to Wire?

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Quote: St pete "Matty smith should never have been dropped that year. We was on something like 11 match unbeaten run then long walked straight back in the team.

Long always does get straight back in team and will again no matter how well eastmond does.

It would be great to see longy back in saints kit before he leaves but I'd rather Kyle turn it on and keep longy out.'"


Long got selected in front of Smith because he was, and still is, several classes above him. It was a no brainer.

Kyle has his chance now, let's see what he does with it.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Didn't the same thing happen years ago with Briers and Goulding, which ultimately led to Briers going to Wire?'"


at the time though, it was a no brainer decision. Goulding was the best scrum half in the game having almost single handedly won us the league in '96 - there was no way that we would release him to keep Briers.

Nobody knew that a few weeks after Briers leaving that Goulding would go into meltdown and end up getting sacked. Still we ended up with Long, so we didnt exactly lose out.

The Long / Eastmond situation is completely different to the Goulding / Briers.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Long got selected in front of Smith because he was, and still is, several classes above him. It was a no brainer.

Kyle has his chance now, let's see what he does with it.'"


Fair point but when we was on such unbeaten run it was obvious at that time smith was doing pretty good.

What's to say smith wouldn't be our 7 today if he hadn't been dropped for longy.

IMO smith took his chance and was still dropped.

That sends out a message to kids that if you take your chance you will play.

If eastmond plays well then he should stay there.

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Quote: Tony Stark "In a strange way I won't be upset if we don't win anything this season, if it means people lower their expectation level a bit, ease off with the uber-confidence some seem to have that is often seen as arrogance by others, and realise that we can't reign supreme all of the time but that by supporting our team week in week out in numbers, showing dedication and determination and a will to win we can enforce those same principles on the players.'"

That's all well and good, but can we please play some decent rugby in the process? It's been really difficult to watch Saints sometimes this season and while I appreciate - and am really glad - that our young guys are being actively integrated into the team, fundamentally we have the same set of players we did last season and yet with the exception of the two Leeds matches and away at Wakey, we really haven't played much like the team of last year. I'm not talking about ultra high standards or anything; just enjoyable to watch rugby league. I don't quite understand why we have to play poorly (and sometimes terribly) while we are integrating young players?

As for my own thoughts on Potter ... the jury is still very much out for me.

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I think Mick Potter is doing a decent job considering this is his first season and the team is in partial transition, still top of the league and in the challenge cup.
Most of the games have been boring this season but you can't cast blame on Mick Potters style of coaching. The game has slowed down in the ruck areas and we probably have had some of the worst referee performance ever this year in superleague.
If Mick Potters gets Eastmond, Moore, Wheeler, Lomax, Foster etc up another level then I think the future is bright.........A Potters Dynasty.

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Im not gonna compain tbh, he`s doing alright, yes the style has changed a bit, but I think first in the league and still in the cup will do for me

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