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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "o.k.
I thought he had signed a three year deal back in 2011.'"
He did but that included the 2011 season
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| Don't think even the life time president could live up to a contract until 2104.
It may not be the end for Gaskell at Saints, but as a half it must be. The only possible reason I can think that Gaskell has not been picked this week, but may have a chance of playing, is that he is being trained into a new position a bit like Wellens.
The likelihood is that he's now gone, but it would not take much for Brown to surprise everyone and be getting another player to perform in a new position.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "How can he? He is contracted to Saints until 2104.'"
Wow.... Now that is a long-term contract...
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Don't think even the life time president could live up to a contract until 2104.
It may not be the end for Gaskell at Saints, but as a half it must be. The only possible reason I can think that Gaskell has not been picked this week, but may have a chance of playing, is that he is being trained into a new position a bit like Wellens.
The likelihood is that he's now gone, but it would not take much for Brown to surprise everyone and be getting another player to perform in a new position.'"
Brown reaches very firm opinions about players and then is loathe to change his mind. last yaer he decided Lunt was not part of his plans and shipped him off to Leeds. Some selections defied belief and others were inspired.
I guess it depends whether brown will be given freedom to experiment and shape his squad or whether others will prevent him?
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| A great report, also knocks on the head the 'attitude' rumour that Gaskell allegedly has. Turned up and put himself forwards for a centre position. Did not sit around at Saints expecting a number 6 shirt to be gifted to him.
Maybe those pushing the slacker theory should back track, as should Martyn Sadler, to the Rochdale coach.
Nothing wrong with a backtrack, I've had to do it myself.
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| Quote: Saints4eva2013 "Interesting read here about what Martyn Sadler wrote about lee Gaskell and the Rochdale chairman not being happy
Very interesting.
It goes to show, as I mentioned, us speccies are only ever working with half (or less than half) the story.
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| Quote: Saints4eva2013 "Interesting read here about what Martyn Sadler wrote about lee Gaskell and the Rochdale chairman not being happy
Good on the Rochdale chairman for sticking up for his club and for Gaskell.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Maybe those pushing the slacker theory should back track, as should Martyn Sadler, to the Rochdale coach.'"
Except the Rochdale chairman, having moaned about the media interpretation of events, misquotes Martyn Sadler who actually said in that piece that Gaskell may be feeling punished, not was actually being punished!
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Turned up and put himself forwards for a centre position. Did not sit around at Saints expecting a number 6 shirt to be gifted to him.'"
That's an indictment on Saints IMO. No player should have to go and put himself forward to play when the whole idea of this partnership was to develop players. There should have been arrangements in place for his continuing development.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That's an indictment on Saints IMO. No player should have to go and put himself forward to play when the whole idea of this partnership was to develop players. There should have been arrangements in place for his continuing development.'"
I don't know. If the lads have been training full time at saints during the day, then they wont be expected to go to Rochdale in the evening (I presume they train in the evening, being part time), unless they're scheduled to be playing for them. In which case, I would presume they'd be excused from a certain amount of Saints time in leiu
They way the Rochdale chairman has described it, it looks like Gaskell has gone looking for the extra work, and fair play to him if so.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Except the Rochdale chairman, having moaned about the media interpretation of events, misquotes Martyn Sadler who actually said in that piece that Gaskell may be feeling punished, not was actually being punished!'"
Except if he'd bothered to actually do his job and check the story he would have found NEITHER to be true. Bad jouralism which ever way the cat jumps!!!!
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| Quote: Top Saint "Except if he'd bothered to actually do his job and check the story he would have found NEITHER to be true. Bad jouralism which ever way the cat jumps!!!!'"
Exactly. It's one thing to say that kind of thing on a Fans forum. It's another for a journalist to just be spouting unsubstantiated opinion. If that's journalism, then we are all journalists, why would anyone pay to read random thoughts!
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| Quote: Top Saint "Except if he'd bothered to actually do his job and check the story he would have found NEITHER to be true. Bad jouralism which ever way the cat jumps!!!!'"
He was expressing an opinion in an op ed column (that's what op ed columns are for by the way - expressing opinions).
The Chairman of Rochdale should take his own advice .
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He was expressing an opinion in an op ed column (that's what op ed columns are for by the way - expressing opinions).
The Chairman of Rochdale should take his own advice .'"
The Rochdale chairman has every right to comment on a member of his staff, playing or otherwise. Gaskell was part of his playing staff at the time the comments were made and he simply rebutted the comments made in the article. A good journalist would have asked the question before blindly publishing his unsubstantiated opinion in the press.
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