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talking up RU as some of you are, i noticed somewhere that despite attendances being up in RU, trys are down more or less exactly a try a game from something like an average of 3.8 per game to 2.8.

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Quote: flipper "talking up RU as some of you are, i noticed somewhere that despite attendances being up in RU, trys are down more or less exactly a try a game from something like an average of 3.8 per game to 2.8.'"


They been brainwashed.

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Quote: McClennan "They been brainwashed.'"


who have? in to thinking what?

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Quote: flipper "talking up RU as some of you are, i noticed somewhere that despite attendances being up in RU, trys are down more or less exactly a try a game from something like an average of 3.8 per game to 2.8.'"


Surely the stat you should be looking at is the number of penalties kicked?

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Quote: McClennan "We can't win with RL supporters. First we complain about sides dropping the ball too often and not being able to execute a simple ball control gameplan and then as soon as teams start doing it we moan because they aren't throwing the ball around with gay abandon. Madness.'"


Mike. Are you telling me that teams are not dropping the ball too often and they can execute simple passes? I've never seen teams drop the ball so much. It's bloody rife.

Are you watching the game at all these days?

Get a fooking grip man! icon_lol.gif

It's the same old retort anytime anyone has anything negative to say. I appreciate you have never liked negativity and always attempt to belittle anyone who doesn't see things through rose tinted spectactles but, sometimes, some people do have valid points and this is one of them.

If you believe that the game has not gone negative, that the rugby league is still as exciting and that teams are actually demonstrating a better ability to keep hold of the ball, then I suggest you go to the doctor immediately and get yourself off the happy pills.

I'd also suggest you canvas the opinion of the large number of regular faces you used to see at games who have deserted the game due to the boredom factor and some of those more respected ones of our age group and older, who are still going regularly (much more than you may I add. icon_biggrin.gif ) but who are very unhappy with the level of the entertainment being provided. icon_wink.gif

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I don't think super league is boring i think your team is boring.

Saints have been used to fast wingers, skillful centres and cheeky halfbacks.

You have none of that now.

I'f you'd had just darren albert in your team you'd have won one of the last 3 grand finals.

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I have lost track of this thread the last few days.

Has anyone other than a few Saints fans supported this theory yet?

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Quote: G1 "I have lost track of this thread the last few days.

Has anyone other than a few Saints fans supported this theory yet?'"


There have been many fans agreeing that the entertainment value has dropped, yes.

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Quote: Saddened! "There have been many fans agreeing that the entertainment value has dropped, yes.'"


RL is crap!

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Quote: D.D. "If you believe that the game has not gone negative, that the rugby league is still as exciting and that teams are actually demonstrating a better ability to keep hold of the ball, then I suggest you go to the doctor immediately and get yourself off the happy pills. /quote]

The slowing of the PTB has reduced the openess of the game. It has also led to more tackles being made in the competition. As defences improve the openess of the game reduces. Is the improvement in defence partly due to the slowing down of the PTB? Yes. However, some people used to suggest that the game was too open and creativity was dying as a result and would state that we should consider reducing the 10m rule back. We can't have it both ways. Either we speed up the PTB and moan about lack of creativity or we keep it as it is and moan about the lack of creativity.

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Quote: McClennan "If you believe that the game has not gone negative, that the rugby league is still as exciting and that teams are actually demonstrating a better ability to keep hold of the ball, then I suggest you go to the doctor immediately and get yourself off the happy pills. /quote]

The slowing of the PTB has reduced the openess of the game. It has also led to more tackles being made in the competition. As defences improve the openess of the game reduces. Is the improvement in defence partly due to the slowing down of the PTB? Yes. However, some people used to suggest that the game was too open and creativity was dying as a result and would state that we should consider reducing the 10m rule back. We can't have it both ways. Either we speed up the PTB and moan about lack of creativity or we keep it as it is and moan about the lack of creativity.'"
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I have not blamed the play-the-ball per se.

As it happens, last night perfectly demonstrated the negative tactics of the game.

On very few occasions did we try to move the ball about to fashion chances and we relied heavily on percentage plays.

Now, i could handle this a little more if the coaches could point to the fact that their team lost too much possession by keeping the ball alive yet how is it possible for teams to lose possession more than they are doing at the moment.

The alarming thing is, even with one pass and a drive, we are still seeing dropped ball akimbo. Most of the time, that is because the dummy half can't even execute a simple one metre pass.

The standard of play, with ball in hand, in this country is appalling and it makes for awful viewing.

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