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| We can't win with RL supporters. First we complain about sides dropping the ball too often and not being able to execute a simple ball control gameplan and then as soon as teams start doing it we moan because they aren't throwing the ball around with gay abandon. Madness.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Percentage RL was played just as much last year, what was the excuse for it then?'"
I know it was but what I am saying is that slowing down the PTB has exacerbated the problem. It's given coaches one more reason to play percentage RL rather than up the skill level. Hearing Potter ramble on about learning better how to wrestle to time is an example of what I'm trying to say. Had he said that he was going to coach Saints to attack the defensive line in a more creative fashion, or something akin to that, then I would have had a bit of hope. But given his comment, all I can visualise is yet another season of dull, boring rugby, especially if all coaches go the same way.
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I know it was but what I am saying is that slowing down the PTB has exacerbated the problem. It's given coaches one more reason to play percentage RL rather than up the skill level. Hearing Potter ramble on about learning better how to wrestle to time is an example of what I'm trying to say. Had he said that he was going to coach Saints to attack the defensive line in a more creative fashion, or something akin to that, then I would have had a bit of hope. But given his comment, all I can visualise is yet another season of dull, boring rugby, especially if all coaches go the same way.'"
Increased professionalism has exacerbated the problem, slow play the balls has just meant that there's less advantage from a quick scoot and therefore it isn't used as much.
In regard to Potter, it's not worth discussing with you, you've shown in the past that you don't see any positives from his tenure so far and seemingly just don't like the man. That's despite him playing pretty much the same way as Anderson did, but with a more difficult set of circumstances, including the forced use of youngsters, senior players being less effective for various reasons and the slowed ptb meaning our main form of attack has been next to useless.
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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| I have to say though, I am liking some of those signatures.
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| talking up RU as some of you are, i noticed somewhere that despite attendances being up in RU, trys are down more or less exactly a try a game from something like an average of 3.8 per game to 2.8.
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| Quote: flipper "talking up RU as some of you are, i noticed somewhere that despite attendances being up in RU, trys are down more or less exactly a try a game from something like an average of 3.8 per game to 2.8.'"
They been brainwashed.
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| Quote: McClennan "They been brainwashed.'"
who have? in to thinking what?
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| Quote: flipper "talking up RU as some of you are, i noticed somewhere that despite attendances being up in RU, trys are down more or less exactly a try a game from something like an average of 3.8 per game to 2.8.'"
Surely the stat you should be looking at is the number of penalties kicked?
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| Quote: McClennan "We can't win with RL supporters. First we complain about sides dropping the ball too often and not being able to execute a simple ball control gameplan and then as soon as teams start doing it we moan because they aren't throwing the ball around with gay abandon. Madness.'"
Mike. Are you telling me that teams are not dropping the ball too often and they can execute simple passes? I've never seen teams drop the ball so much. It's bloody rife.
Are you watching the game at all these days?
Get a fooking grip man!
It's the same old retort anytime anyone has anything negative to say. I appreciate you have never liked negativity and always attempt to belittle anyone who doesn't see things through rose tinted spectactles but, sometimes, some people do have valid points and this is one of them.
If you believe that the game has not gone negative, that the rugby league is still as exciting and that teams are actually demonstrating a better ability to keep hold of the ball, then I suggest you go to the doctor immediately and get yourself off the happy pills.
I'd also suggest you canvas the opinion of the large number of regular faces you used to see at games who have deserted the game due to the boredom factor and some of those more respected ones of our age group and older, who are still going regularly (much more than you may I add. ) but who are very unhappy with the level of the entertainment being provided.
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| I don't think super league is boring i think your team is boring.
Saints have been used to fast wingers, skillful centres and cheeky halfbacks.
You have none of that now.
I'f you'd had just darren albert in your team you'd have won one of the last 3 grand finals.
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| I have lost track of this thread the last few days.
Has anyone other than a few Saints fans supported this theory yet?
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| Quote: G1 "I have lost track of this thread the last few days.
Has anyone other than a few Saints fans supported this theory yet?'"
There have been many fans agreeing that the entertainment value has dropped, yes.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Saddened! "There have been many fans agreeing that the entertainment value has dropped, yes.'"
RL is crap!
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| Quote: D.D. "If you believe that the game has not gone negative, that the rugby league is still as exciting and that teams are actually demonstrating a better ability to keep hold of the ball, then I suggest you go to the doctor immediately and get yourself off the happy pills. /quote]
The slowing of the PTB has reduced the openess of the game. It has also led to more tackles being made in the competition. As defences improve the openess of the game reduces. Is the improvement in defence partly due to the slowing down of the PTB? Yes. However, some people used to suggest that the game was too open and creativity was dying as a result and would state that we should consider reducing the 10m rule back. We can't have it both ways. Either we speed up the PTB and moan about lack of creativity or we keep it as it is and moan about the lack of creativity.
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