I felt a bit sorry for Veivers, it seemed harsh to get rid of him after only 5 games - especially since he stuck with us through all the financial problems, and the Shaun McRae/Matt Parrish lark. Maybe he could've done better though when we had the likes of Holdsworth, Patten and Smith. And losing 38-4 at home to London He was probably gonna go anyway at the end of this season too, along with maybe a mass change of players. Why wait 'til then to replace him if you can get the replacement you want in much earlier.

This season was always going to be a write-off. I'm saving any proper judgement of Koukash and Noble until well into next season.

I think Koukash will turn out to be the SL equivalent of Venkys. All mouth, no trousers and very little experience within the arena he now finds himself in.

If you mean Venky's at Blackburn FC then quite the opposite is true,not least because Dr Koukash is not living a world away and he is very hands-on.
Dr Koukash,it transpires,is personal friends with Chalmers and Graham Lowe in New Zealand as well as with your owner McManus.
The sacking of Veivers was,in my opinion,wrong,as it was for his friend Noble to jump into his shoes,but after last night my one worry is,for stability and continuity purposes,if the shelf life of a head coach is 5 yrs at a club ( John Kear ) will the 2 relatively inexperienced assistant coaches take over down the line ?
Dr Koukash believes Veivers would not have attracted big-name signings to the club - despite his friendship with Meninga and being the brother-in-law of Wayne Bennett.
It is a little harsh to judge him on his signings as he had 'no money' due to the fact the club was hurtling towards oblivion.The quality players he had were already aboard the lifeboats queueing alongside the SS Salford.

Our defensive line would still be pregnable if everyone of our players was equipped with a Kalashnikov AK-47.

Phil Vievers sacking was justified in that the results at the back end of last season were terrible (when Salford actually had a decent 17) they got worse this season and he made three of the worst overseas signings in the history of Super League in Ryan McGoldrick, Vic Mauro and Liam Foran.

Those doubting Koukash will be left with egg on their faces come next season. An announcement is to be made on August 9th regarding new signings for next season when it is expected Koukash is to confirm at least 6 new signings (including a couple from St Helens).

Meli and Puletua no doubt

Veivers's squad got decimated, though. He had a good attacking game because of the way Smith, Holdsworth and Patten linked, but they lost all of those AND Joel Moon.

Bar Smith, only at the end of the season though. He had a lot of 2012 season with all those players still in the side but they still managed to consistently lose. And remember, Vievers said he was the defensive coach at Salford while Longy was the attacking coach. Salford's attack was wonderful at times, really quite breathtaking, while their defence was persistently and consistently poor. Their defence only really improved under Hunte and even then it was still prone to shakiness. Koukash's best option - although I can understand why he didn't do it - would have been to keep Hunte as head coach for this season while allowing Nobby to view his charges ready for next season. That way Salford would have retained some consistency and stability, and might have seen some better results as a consequence.

Hohaia and Laffranchi are way, way better than McGoldrick, Foran and especially Mauro who is more of a pudding than Perry.

I started this thread to show some solidarity with species of another club feeling shortchanged. It is good to see the quality of input from fans of the red devils and I hope it works out for you. I think the next three years is s**t or bust though for the club.

Great summary, couldnt have said it better myself. For the majority of Vievers reign I dont understand what he did apart from pick the 17, our defence was a shambles and it was only down to Longy that our attack was so good. With Patten, Smith, Holdsworth and Moon and a half decent bunch around them we should have done better last season.



Puletua sounds a cert whilst Meli and Soliola (I wish) have also been rumoured.



I'd quite happily swap our three for those. They are truly dreadful.

Soliola to Salford isn't going to happen!

Soliola isn't going anywhere.

Meli and Puletua are part of your 6 signings. I believe the others are Chase, Dobson, Morley and Hock. However, Hock needs to get out of his Parra contract.

Hock is not and never was going to Salford or getting out of his contract with the Eels. That has been confirmed direct to the Eels by Dr Koukash (who stated that Salford had never shown any interest in Hock), as reported with quotes in the Australian press last week. That was nothing more than Internet rumour and that is probably the case with Chase, Dobson and Morley! (Although Morley may be tempted with being OOC from Wire and Salford being his home town)