Wilkin's timing is poor. It just comes across as sour grapes. I think most of us agree with his sentiments but he should probably just have sucked it up.

This.

Bailey will only say something if he is in a group with Peacock, Sinfield et al.

I feel slightly ambivalent about this. If it's true that he was baiting our young players then that's pretty low, and I can understand Wilkin wanting to mention it. But the tone of it does come across as slightly petty, probably because a journalist has talked to him shortly after the match when emotions were still running high. I'd say it's understandable but probably ill advised.

Bailey is an odious character. This is beyond question. Anyone who does to another human being what he was sent to prison for (not to mention the various misdemeanors he's committed on a rugby pitch) deserves every brickbat tossed at him.

The thing is, for someone who likes throwing his weight about he never fails to be remarkably meek whenever the Kiwis and Australians are about. But this is classic bully behavior. Picking your battles and running when the big dogs are in town.

Sour grapes from Wilkin,he should be more embarrassed about his vanishing act on the field at Old Trafford.

Quote: vernon "If Wilkin dislikes Bailey so much, why hasn't he sorted him out on the rugby pitch ? He has had plenty of chances. Whining like this just makes him sound like a bad loser.'" They have both been named in the England squad. That will be interesting. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 240356.stm

Quote: vernon "If Wilkin dislikes Bailey so much, why hasn't he sorted him out on the rugby pitch ? He has had plenty of chances. Whining like this just makes him sound like a bad loser.'" They have both been named in the England squad. That will be interesting. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 240356.stm

You a Leeds fan? If so then you insult your own team. Leeds marked Wilkin Roby and Lomax very well. Until the second half anyway.

As for what Wilkin said, I think he was spot on to say it. For those just chirping in without first reading what he said, Wilkin was very clearly stating his respect for 16 of the Leeds players but pointing out how Bailey 'fronted up' to the young guys at Saints - one of which was heartbroken at the end - and that is the sign of a childish individual who is not professional. I would agree with him 100%. He also says he risks sounding sour grapes but he was angry on behalf of the young guys not himself. For some of them it was their first time in a final.

It was interesting to note that after a bit of handbags towards the end of the match, Bailey went straight off. That would suggest that maybe his coach is not as tolerant of his behaviour as his previous coach was.

But Bailey is a coward and a first class idiot. I'm looking forward to watching the Aussies and Kiwis smash him to pieces on the field.

Baileys new designation........FIMS

Wow. Controversial comments there. Did he also reveal the sky is blue, the earth is round and Joel Tomkins looks like a shaven wooky?

Poor Sam Tomkins he gets booed because he's a prat. I think he's a superb player, would love to have him at Leeds but God is the man a prat.

With regards to Wilkin I think whether he has a point or not it has become lost because his comments merely appear to be sour grapes. He desperately needs to learn the words "no comment" and as to when is appropriate to use them. It isn't the first time Wilkin has made a fool of himself by whinging after the GF.

In summary Bailey needs to learn the art of appropriate celebration, Wilkin needs to learn the art of appropriate media comment and Sam Tomkins needs to learn the world doesn't revolve around him.

I don't see how Wilkins comments can come across as sour grapes, when he openly praises a number of Leeds players and even says 16 members of their squad were gracious in victory.

And although things will be interesting in the England camp, I feel that with Graham, Peacock, Morley and Carvell in the side, Bailey won't be getting too much game time and as such things won't get out of hand on the field.