That's a fair comment, however Sullivan wouldn't even be in consideration were it not for Newlove playing on the inside of him.

I know Mc i just had to throw someone else in there from the list of top points scorers i was looking at at the time

Although that said i've just seen that he was scoring consistantly in the 20+ try bracket for two seasons prior to Newlove's arrival.

For me people are looking too closely at how 'great' a player was...

But to me the TIFO is about mroe than that.

It is about the history, heritage and traditions of the club - anf the memories of the fans on the back of them.

For example, the reason I suggested a heavy contingent of St. Helens born players is because we can be proud of some of the players we produced throughout time.

Not only this, but so called 'good club players' on there were Characters in there own right. Haggy was wholehearted and proud to play for his hometown club. He was a humble but tough player who would always give 110%. I would rather have one or two players like this than a so called superstar who had a fleeting time at the club.

Look at the bigger picture.

Get this on teh banner

The bloke stood next to Jamie Lyon looks like someone out of 'Dawn of the Dead', who is it????

O/T You making an appearance this Friday Syddley? These part-timers do my head in!

Good points. Nothing wrong with fans favourites or players who were just popular or big characters.

why not? fans favourite, iconic character in the clubs history, rubbish player. The only difference being that Matautia actually won medals.

Thanks to Sadfish again

Great that Ski, well done.

Top notch.

nice

What! Briers but no Newlove

Quotes sent for

Qualiteh.

Good work all, looks class.

After this, I trust the next banner will read:

"Mr Phil's Financial Advice will rip your spleen out."