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66910_1331376762.jpg Keep faith
the futures bright, the futures white with a [color=#FF0000:2uej2mwq]red V[/color:2uej2mwq]
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| and lets face it i dont think anyone knows these kids better than mike rush, if this is the level he is able to play at he would know, if you take him out who would you replace him?
keep him in, if hes good enough hes old enough
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Or Craig Hall, a player who has really disappointed me. I saw him play at academy level v Australia at Bradford a few years ago and he was outstanding. He had pace, size and could beat a man off either foot. Sadly for whatever reason he never really progressed.'"
I think the isse is that young players like Tyrer and Hall can look like world beaters by being bigger and faster than other u18s/u20s. Then when they get to a level when everyone is big and fast they have nothing else. They then have to try and work hard which is something they have never done before because everything has always come easy to them.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "I think the isse is that young players like Tyrer and Hall can look like world beaters by being bigger and faster than other u18s/u20s. Then when they get to a level when everyone is big and fast they have nothing else. They then have to try and work hard which is something they have never done before because everything has always come easy to them.'"
What he said.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "I think the isse is that young players like Tyrer and Hall can look like world beaters by being bigger and faster than other u18s/u20s. Then when they get to a level when everyone is big and fast they have nothing else. They then have to try and work hard which is something they have never done before because everything has always come easy to them.'"
But in that game v the Aussies at academy level Hall was up against the likes of Inglis and Fillau.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But in that game v the Aussies at academy level Hall was up against the likes of Inglis and [i[sizeFillau[/size[/i.'"
Was he a good player?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But in that game v the Aussies at academy level Hall was up against the likes of Inglis and Fillau.'"
I agree about Hall, he can look like a world beater. I remember him scoring an unbelievable try in the challenge cup a few years ago and then getting dropped for the final against us
I was amazed at the time as he was one of the few players they had capable of something special. I still think he could be great with good coaching though
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But in that game v the Aussies at academy level Hall was up against the likes of Inglis and Fillau.'"
I do see your point, but these boys just got bigger and bigger, if not in terms of height then muscle. I have always been very unimpressed with the actually "rugby" skills of these two players, Isreal especially. They are just bigger and faster than everyone else. Saying that Inglis has actually matured into an actually rugby player than just an athlete in the last couple of years and he seems to be (strangely) not making the same impact because of it.
But going back to Hall, some players do just seem to fall away. Remember how good Stuart Reardon looked when he was 20.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "But going back to Hall, some players do just seem to fall away. Remember how good Stuart Reardon looked when he was 20.'"
Or Jamie Langley. Who looked a cast iron certainty for international level within weeks of his debut.
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
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| I think Hall's problem is poor coaching. He just never learned to defend.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "I think Hall's problem is poor coaching. He just never learned to defend.'"
The curse of Agar ...
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| It just goes to show - one bad choice of coach can set a club back the best part of five years.
Given that we don't have anywhere near the pool of athletic talent available to the Aussies we simply cannot afford to screw up those kids who genuinely do possess ability. Even the top sides find it hard to develop more than two or three above average quality players in the same number of seasons. But they are essential to any side with trophy aspirations. Which means a poor coach who sees out most of a three year contract can do an awful lot of damage.
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